Can a White Dwarf Collapse into a Neutron Star Without a Supernova?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the possibility of a white dwarf collapsing directly into a neutron star without undergoing a supernova, particularly in the context of binary systems where mass is accreted from a companion star. Participants explore the conditions under which neutron stars form and the implications of exceeding certain mass limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a white dwarf can collapse directly into a neutron star in a binary system, or if a supernova is a necessary precursor to neutron star formation.
  • One participant explains that when a white dwarf exceeds the Chandrasekhar limit, it typically results in a Type Ia supernova rather than collapsing into a neutron star, due to the presence of lighter elements and available thermonuclear energy.
  • Another participant raises the question of whether a neutron star that exceeds the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit would inevitably collapse into a black hole, and whether fusion of neutron star material is feasible.
  • It is noted that while a neutron star can collapse into a black hole, the core of a neutron star is described as a "fusion" of neutrons, although this does not involve traditional fusion reactions.
  • A later reply asserts that exceeding the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit would lead to a black hole, suggesting a consensus on this specific outcome.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the formation pathways of neutron stars from white dwarfs, with some arguing for the necessity of a supernova and others exploring alternative scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the direct collapse of white dwarfs into neutron stars.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the mass limits and the conditions under which neutron stars and black holes form, as well as the definitions of fusion in the context of neutron stars.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying stellar evolution, astrophysics, and the mechanisms of star formation and collapse in binary systems.

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Is it possible for white dwarf star in binary system where it is feeding off its partner star to collapse directly into a neutron star? Or is something inherent in the formation of neutron stars where they must be formed from supernova?
 
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When a white dwarf accretes mass from a companion and exceeds the Chandrasekhar limit of about 1.4 solar masses, instead of collapsing to a neutron star, it explodes as a Type 1A supernova. The reason is that a white dwarf is formed of relatively light elements like carbon and oxygen, so there is still a lot of thermonuclear energy available from further fusion reactions. So when the star gets compressed further, these thermonuclear reactions ignite and the star explodes in a massive explosion. By contrast, when the core of a more massive star collapses to form a neutron star, the core is formed of heavier elements like iron. Since iron is at the peak of the nuclear binding energy curve, there is no more thermonuclear energy available from further fusion reactions.
 
Thank you for you response, Would this mean that a neutron star which exceeds its Tolman-Oppenheimer-volkoff limit would always collapse to a black hole? Would fusion of Neutron star material (primarily neutrons) be possible?
 
Big neutron star collapse results in a black hole. The core of a neutron star can be thought of as the "fusion" of its neutrons. However there is no such thing as a fusion reaction in this case.
 
PeterB said:
Thank you for you response, Would this mean that a neutron star which exceeds its Tolman-Oppenheimer-volkoff limit would always collapse to a black hole?

Yes, as far as we know this is the only outcome.
 

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