Can Charged Elementary Particles Experience Acceleration in a Vacuum?

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The discussion revolves around whether charged elementary particles experience any loss of kinetic energy while traveling in a vacuum and how their behavior might change in scenarios involving tangential forces, such as in a nuclear fusion reaction. The scope includes theoretical considerations of particle behavior in vacuum and the effects of forces on particle motion.

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  • Some participants propose that elementary particles traveling through a vacuum are mostly "unharmed" and do not experience loss of kinetic energy.
  • Others question the presence of forces acting on particles in a vacuum, suggesting that the velocity distribution of neutrons produced in a nuclear fusion reaction may be influenced by the tangential velocity of the initial particles.
  • One participant draws an analogy to a metal ball on a merry-go-round, suggesting that neutrons might exhibit similar behavior when influenced by tangential forces.
  • It is noted that gravitational effects can alter a particle's path in a vacuum, with some participants indicating that redshift can occur due to gravitational influences or the expansion of the universe.
  • Another point raised is that charged particles can be accelerated by electromagnetic forces, which adds complexity to their behavior in a vacuum.

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Participants generally agree that elementary particles are mostly unchanged in a vacuum, but there is disagreement regarding the influence of tangential forces and the effects of gravity and electromagnetic forces on particle behavior.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of forces acting on particles and the conditions under which these forces might apply. The relationship between particle velocity distribution and external influences remains unresolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying particle physics, astrophysics, or anyone curious about the behavior of elementary particles in different environments.

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First , elementary particles traveling through vacuum , do they experience any loss of kinetic energy or whatever or are they "unharmed", unchanged while traveling in vacuum?
my guess would be for the second one.

And the other question let me put it this way.
Imagine there is a nuclear fusion reaction and the elementary particles are sitting on a merry-go-round that's spins pretty fast in a vacuum , do the high energy neutrons that come out , do they fly in any direction or are they traveling along the sides away from the merry-go-round because of tangential forces acting on them so that they fly that direction or do they still go equally every direction? Or is this dependent of the tangential velocity?


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Hi Crazymechanic! :smile:
Crazymechanic said:
First , elementary particles traveling through vacuum , do they experience any loss of kinetic energy or whatever or are they "unharmed", unchanged while traveling in vacuum?
my guess would be for the second one.

"unharmed" :smile:
Imagine there is a nuclear fusion reaction and the elementary particles are sitting on a merry-go-round that's spins pretty fast in a vacuum , do the high energy neutrons that come out , do they fly in any direction or are they traveling along the sides away from the merry-go-round because of tangential forces acting on them so that they fly that direction or do they still go equally every direction? Or is this dependent of the tangential velocity?

Sorry, I don't follow this :redface:

why would there be any forces on them, tangential or otherwise? :confused:

(If you mean, is the neutron velocity distribution affected by the velocity of the initial particles, the answer is yes, whether that velocity is circular or linear)
 
Well i was thinking of terms like the metal ball i was speaking about when mentioning the tangential velocity the metal ball flies off to that direction or feels stress to that direction does neutron would do the same being part of the gas or whatever that is spun in a centrifuge where you experience tangential velocity?
 
Crazymechanic said:
Well i was thinking of terms like the metal ball i was speaking about when mentioning the tangential velocity the metal ball flies off to that direction or feels stress to that direction does neutron would do the same being part of the gas or whatever that is spun in a centrifuge where you experience tangential velocity?

the gas has tangential velocity, so the neutron distribution will be biased towards that velocity
 
Thanks just the answer I was looking for
 
Crazymechanic said:
First , elementary particles traveling through vacuum , do they experience any loss of kinetic energy or whatever or are they "unharmed", unchanged while traveling in vacuum?

Mostly "unharmed". Visitors who come from very very long distance are observed to be red shifted.
 
and that is done by gravity i guess so the only thing that can alter or change a particles way through vacuum is gravity am I correct stating this?
 
gravity will do it, but i think manojr was referring to redshift caused by expansion of the universe
 
The deformation of space can effect the path & energy of a particle traveling through it. This can include gravitational fields. Redshift is mostly caused by the stretching of space due to the expansion of the universe.
 
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If a particle is charged, electromagnetic forces can also accelerate it.
 

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