Can every attractive 1D potential have at least one bound state?

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The discussion revolves around the theorem stating that every attractive 1D potential has at least one bound state, contrasting this with the situation in higher dimensions (2D and 3D) where the theorem does not hold. Participants seek to understand the proof and implications of this theorem, exploring the variational method and specific cases like the delta function potential.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the existence of a theorem asserting that every attractive 1D potential has at least one bound state, while this does not apply to 2D or 3D cases.
  • Another participant discusses the variational method, suggesting that a wavefunction can be constructed to yield a negative expectation value for the Hamiltonian, indicating a bound state.
  • A participant proposes that the delta function potential represents the minimum case for an attractive potential and speculates on the existence of bound states in higher dimensions.
  • There is a clarification that the variational method does not necessitate the wavefunction being a solution to the Schrödinger equation.
  • One participant elaborates on the behavior of wavefunctions in 1D versus 2D and 3D, emphasizing the requirement for a strong enough attraction to create bound states in higher dimensions.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and interpretation of the theorem and its implications, particularly regarding the differences between dimensions. There is no consensus on the proof or the implications for higher dimensions, indicating ongoing debate and exploration.

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Participants mention specific mathematical constructs and conditions related to the variational method and wavefunction behavior, but these are not fully resolved or agreed upon.

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Hello:

There is a well known theorem which asserts that every attractive 1D potential has at least one bound state; in addition, this theorem does not hold for the 2D or 3D cases. I've been looking for a proof in my textbooks on qm but I've been unable to find it. Can you help me out?

Thanks!
 
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It has to do with the variational method. You can always come up with a wavefunction that is "everywhere inside the well" and "piecewise flat", (think cross-section of a muffin tin) , so that \left\langle \psi | H | \psi \right\rangle < 0. This puts an upper-bound on the ground state of the system.

I never really understood how the proof breaks down in higher dimensions. I think it is because in 2D and 3D, the Hamiltonian has a centrifugal barrier. Well, other than that, explicit counter-examples are known. I hope someone else fills in the gaps.
 
I'm guessing that the bare minimum case for an attractive potential would have to be the delta function in any number of dimensions. I know what the bound state looks like in 1D; in 2d or 3d if you could solve for the delta potential and show there are no bound states, then I think that would be pretty much it.
 
The variational method does not require the wavefunction be a solution of the Schrödinger equation.
 
luisgml_2000 said:
Hello:
There is a well known theorem which asserts that every attractive 1D potential has at least one bound state; in addition, this theorem does not hold for the 2D or 3D cases.!
In 1D, the wave function can be finite at the origin, and can always decrease monotonically to zero at infinity. In 2D or 3D, the "equivalent 1D" wave function is u=\sqrt{r}\psi
for 2D or u=r\psi for 3D. In either case, u must equal zero at the origin.
This requires a strong enough attraction to make u turn over at some point.
 

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