Can Flat Rotation Curves in Spiral Galaxies Be Explained by Dynamical Friction?

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The discussion revolves around the potential explanation of flat rotation curves in spiral galaxies through the concept of dynamical friction. Participants explore the implications of mass segregation in galaxy clusters and its relevance to the distribution of matter in individual spiral galaxies, considering both theoretical and observational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that dynamical friction could explain the flat rotation curves observed in spiral galaxies, where heavier matter is concentrated at the center and lighter matter is diffused.
  • Others argue that the Sun does not exhibit mass segregation, suggesting that convection dominates at the solar scale, which may not be applicable to galaxy scales.
  • It is noted that the gradient of heavier elements toward the galactic core could be attributed to an increased rate of star formation, with mass being recycled through stars in denser regions.
  • A later reply questions the mechanisms of mass segregation in galaxy clusters, pondering whether their greater mass and slower dynamics facilitate this phenomenon.
  • Some participants assert that the observed distribution of heavier elements in galaxies is insufficient to account for the peaks in galactic rotation curves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of dynamical friction to explain flat rotation curves, with some supporting the idea while others provide counterarguments related to mass segregation and star formation processes. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of mass segregation and the unresolved nature of the relationship between star formation rates and rotation curves. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the mechanisms involved.

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Analysis of dynamical friction in clusters of galaxies produces mass segregation between heavier matter at the center and light matter diffused in the outer regions (Ref). Can the flat rotation curve in an individual spiral galaxy, whereby heavier matter is concentrated at the center and hydrogen and dark matter is diffused, be also explained by dynamical friction?
 
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The Sun does not show mass segregation. All the elements remain present at the Sun's surface. At a galaxy scale molecules of gas are moving much to quickly. Convection dominates.

The gradient of heavier elements toward the galactic core and in the disc can be explained by an increased rate of star formation. It all started out as the same mix of gas but in denser regions the mass has been recycled through stars multiple times.

Black holes should be segregating toward the core of the galaxy. Large stars segregate into the center of clusters.
 
stefan r said:
The Sun does not show mass segregation. All the elements remain present at the Sun's surface. At a galaxy scale molecules of gas are moving much to quickly. Convection dominates.

The gradient of heavier elements toward the galactic core and in the disc can be explained by an increased rate of star formation. It all started out as the same mix of gas but in denser regions the mass has been recycled through stars multiple times.

Black holes should be segregating toward the core of the galaxy. Large stars segregate into the center of clusters.
So what is it that makes mass segregation possible in clusters of galaxies - is it because they are more massive and slow?
 
Ranku said:
Can the flat rotation curve in an individual spiral galaxy, whereby heavier matter is concentrated at the center and hydrogen and dark matter is diffused, be also explained by dynamical friction?
Stefan r said:
the gradient of heavier elements toward the galactic core and in the disk can be explained by an increased rate of star formation.
Yes, you're right, and furthermore the observed distribution of heavier elements isn't enough to account for the peak in galactic rotation curves.
 
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