Can Free Particle Have Sharp Energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether a free particle can possess a sharp energy value. Participants explore the implications of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to the Schrödinger equation and the nature of wave functions.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the claim that a free particle cannot have a sharp energy, seeking clarification on the reasoning behind this assertion.
  • Another participant argues that a free particle described by a plane wave solution to the Schrödinger equation does indeed have a well-defined momentum, which implies that its energy is also well-defined, suggesting that it can have a sharp energy value.
  • The same participant emphasizes the importance of referencing sources when making claims, indicating that without knowing the source, it is difficult to assess the validity of the information presented.
  • A later reply acknowledges the difficulty in locating the original source of the claim and expresses gratitude for the clarification provided regarding the nature of free particles and their energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the nature of energy for free particles, with one side asserting that sharp energy is possible and the other questioning the initial claim without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for clarity on definitions and the importance of sources in scientific discourse, as well as the potential for misunderstanding in interpretations of quantum mechanics.

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I read somewhere that a single particle traveling freely (not in a box, no PE function, etc.) cannot have a sharp energy. Is this correct? If so, why?

As always, thanks in advance.
 
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Where did you read that and what was the reasoning ?
 
referframe said:
I read somewhere that a single particle traveling freely (not in a box, no PE function, etc.) cannot have a sharp energy. Is this correct? If so, why?

As always, thanks in advance.

We request that members who post something like this make exact reference to the source. This will force people, at least from now on, the pay attention to the source that they wish for us to address in the future.

This is a perfect example, because what you describe is actually false. A free particle that is described by a plane wave solution to the Schrödinger equation, will have a well-defined momentum. Since for a free particle, the momentum and energy operators commute with each other, it means that the energy of that particle is also well-defined. Thus, this is equivalent to having a sharp energy value at a particular value - a delta function.

So now we are left with the question on whether (i) you read your source correctly, (ii) you read a dubious, faulty piece of information, or (iii) a number of other possible explanations. Without knowing the source of the information, we have no way of knowing.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
We request that members who post something like this make exact reference to the source. This will force people, at least from now on, the pay attention to the source that they wish for us to address in the future.

This is a perfect example, because what you describe is actually false. A free particle that is described by a plane wave solution to the Schrödinger equation, will have a well-defined momentum. Since for a free particle, the momentum and energy operators commute with each other, it means that the energy of that particle is also well-defined. Thus, this is equivalent to having a sharp energy value at a particular value - a delta function.

So now we are left with the question on whether (i) you read your source correctly, (ii) you read a dubious, faulty piece of information, or (iii) a number of other possible explanations. Without knowing the source of the information, we have no way of knowing.

Zz.


I read it a couple of weeks ago. I will try to find the source. I think it was just somebody's paper that I ran into using Google. In any case, thanks for the clarification.
 

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