Can laser optics provide insight into photon lifetime definitions?

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The discussion revolves around the definitions of photon lifetime in the context of laser cavities, particularly focusing on unconventional or "exotic" definitions that differ from standard approaches found in literature. Participants explore the relationships between energy density, power, intensity, and photon lifetime, seeking deeper insights and references on the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the common definitions of photon lifetime found in literature, which typically relate to cavity exiting energy and losses in active material.
  • Another participant references an article on Bloch wave formalism as a potential resource for understanding photon lifetime in DFB lasers.
  • A third participant shares a link to a document discussing output power in quantum cascade lasers, suggesting it may contain relevant information.
  • A participant mentions finding interesting data regarding energy velocity and its relation to photon lifetime, proposing a connection between photon lifetime and the integral of energy density through intensity.

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The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus, as participants explore various definitions and relationships without settling on a single viewpoint or conclusion.

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Participants note limitations in existing definitions and seek to connect different concepts, such as energy density and intensity, to photon lifetime, indicating potential gaps in the current literature.

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This discussion may be of interest to researchers and students in the fields of laser optics, photonics, and quantum mechanics, particularly those exploring advanced concepts related to photon behavior in laser systems.

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Hello folks of physics. Can anyone tell me about some exotic photon lifetime definitions for photons in laser cavity? I mean, I looked in all sorts of books related to that topic, and the entire bunch of authors use the same definition: cavity exiting energy through dissipated power; or definition through losses in active material. what confuses me is that they all give definitions of energy in dependence of energy density, and power in intensity, but no one has actually connected those relations in photon time dependence. I would like to research this topic more, so I ask you for the starter help, in any reference, literature connected to the topic, etc.
thanks in advance...
 
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Found it. if someone is interested look at article Bloch wave formalism of photon lifetime in DFB lasers.
 
http://faculty.uml.edu/cbaird/qcl/Output_Power.pdf"
 
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tnx. I also found some interesting data and info about energy velocity and its relations to photon lifetime , that is equivalent to group velocity but given as mean value of poynting vector(witch is almost same thing as the intensity ) and an energy density. I am interested: is it possible to found relation to photon lifetime definition as integral of energy density (integral of only one spatial coordinate) through intensity
 

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