Can Prophecy Violate Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of prophecy and its potential conflict with the principles of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of predicting the future within the framework of quantum theory, which posits that future states of systems are probabilistic rather than deterministic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that claims of predicting the future contradict quantum mechanics, which states that future states are subject to probability rather than certainty.
  • Others express skepticism about the validity of certain claims made by individuals who assert they can predict the future, suggesting that these claims violate more than just physical laws.
  • One participant mentions a specific case involving a physicist named Mallet, who proposed a concept akin to a "time telephone," but notes that the consensus is that his work contains errors.

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Participants generally disagree on the validity of prophetic claims and their compatibility with quantum mechanics, with no consensus reached on the matter.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal opinions and anecdotal references rather than established scientific consensus, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the definitions of terms like "prophecy" and "quantum mechanics" as used in the discussion.

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I've always wondered that when people claim to predict the future, don't they violate the laws of quantum mechanics? QM says that the state of a future system cannot be known (as it could be for classical physics), but can only be subject to the laws of probability.
 
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If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).
 


CompuChip said:
If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).

In reading your post, I noticed your Aura oscillating into the violet.
 


CompuChip said:
If you want my opinion, those people should be violating a lot more laws than they do anyway. Especially the kind that used "physical" arguments to support their gibberish ("your energy spectrum is distorted, but if you give me $ 300 I will resonate your eigenfrequency so that you may pass into a higher spacetime dimension" - *puke*).

Agreed! Did you know that Kevin Trudeau suggested in his book that cooking food at your house instead of going to a restaurant modifies its electrons? The scary thing is that people actually believe this stuff.
 


Karl G. said:
I've always wondered that when people claim to predict the future, don't they violate the laws of quantum mechanics? QM says that the state of a future system cannot be known (as it could be for classical physics), but can only be subject to the laws of probability.

In a sense, what you are asking is if time travel [beyond the normal sense of time] is possible. The answer is that we don't know.

There was one recent effort to make what amounts to a time telephone to the future [or to the past, depending on which end we are talking about], by a physicist named Mallet. I believe the consensus is that his papers are in error.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=42834
 
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