Can Psychedelics Alter Our Perception of Time to Extend Life?

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The discussion explores the potential effects of psychedelics on the perception of time and whether this altered perception could contribute to a sense of extended life. Participants share personal experiences with psychedelics, discuss historical research, and consider philosophical implications regarding consciousness and time perception.

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  • One participant describes personal experiences with psychedelics that led to a distorted sense of time, feeling as though 14 hours equated to two years.
  • Another participant notes that time perception can vary based on emotional experiences, suggesting that fun can make time feel faster while distress can make it feel slower.
  • Historical accounts of LSD experiments from the 1950s are mentioned, where subjects reported experiences of consciousness that seemed to transcend time and species.
  • There is speculation about the possibility of developing substances that could extend the perception of time without severe sensory alterations.
  • A later reply discusses the philosophical implications of time perception and consciousness, questioning the relationship between altered experiences and the physical reality of life and death.

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Participants express a range of views on the relationship between psychedelics, time perception, and consciousness. There is no clear consensus, as some participants share personal anecdotes while others introduce philosophical considerations, leading to multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of consciousness and time perception, with some suggesting that altered experiences may not reflect physical reality. The discussion includes references to historical research and philosophical theories, but these are not universally accepted or agreed upon.

  • #31
zoobyshoe said:
This site has mention of studies, and the LSD/schizophrenia connection:


LSD
Address:http://www.coolnurse.com/lsd.htm

"However, drug studies have confirmed that the powerful hallucinogenic effects of this drug can produce profound adverse reactions, such as acute panic reactions, psychotic crises, and flashbacks."

"Do not expect to do anything other than just that when using it. A user will be surprised at how difficult and confusing using a phone or dealing with authority is. Do not drive or operate any sort of machinery. It is a good idea to have at least one sober "babysitter" or designated sober person there to take care of a user just in case. People with histories of psychoses such as schizophrenia in the family should avoid using LSD, as it can bring out latent tendencies towards schizophrenia. (We are not suggesting that you use LSD, but informing you on how it could be used more safely). Continuous use of LSD can trigger mental and social problems as a result of difficulty facing reality.
Flashbacks can occur for years after someone has quit using LSD."

wait, so where in any of that does it say injestion of LSD leads to schizophrenia? all it says is that people who have a family history of schizophrenia shouldn't take LSD.

LSD affects seretonin, schizophrenia is the result of dopamine (too many dopamine receptors or a lesion, both in the frontal cortex).

the symptoms may be similar, and maybe that can bring forward latent symptoms... but it would only happen in someone who already has the physiological makeup of schizophrenia. I'm not going to read into what was said, but if anyone meant to imply that a "normal" person could develop schizophrenia from taking LSD, i think that's absurd.

and not to nitpick, but i was looking for something more in the form of a peer-reviewed medical journal... "coolnurse.com" doesn't really have outstanding credentials...

...that's just my opinion though.
 
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  • #32
rygar said:
wait, so where in any of that does it say injestion of LSD leads to schizophrenia?
I didn't say it did. I said it explains the LSD/schizophrenia connection. In other words, why they are probably connected in some peoples minds.
the symptoms may be similar, and maybe that can bring forward latent symptoms... but it would only happen in someone who already has the physiological makeup of schizophrenia.
This is the LSD/Schizophrenia connection.

(But, I know what you mean. I wasn't very clear about what I meant by posting it.)
 
  • #33
zooby: sorry, i was more referring to

saltydog said:
Injestion of hallacinogens leads to schizophrenia. It's documented.

though i still think the connection is ambiguous at best. schizophrenia-like symptoms, maybe, but schizophrenia?
 
  • #34
rygar said:
though i still think the connection is ambiguous at best. schizophrenia-like symptoms, maybe, but schizophrenia?
From a psychiatrist's point of view the distinction may be of some importance. From the point of view of the person suffering, what's the difference? I think saltydog's warning was aimed at those who might potentially become the latter. Right idea, wrong terminology.
 

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