Can someone give me the solution of that trinomial

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The discussion revolves around solving a cubic trinomial equation for the variable "m" in terms of "x". Participants explore the use of Mathematica and Maple for obtaining solutions, while also addressing misunderstandings regarding the variables involved.

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  • One participant requests a solution for the trinomial equation x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2+(8/3)*(m+10)*x+(160/3)(m-1)=0 in terms of the variable "t", later clarifying that they meant "m".
  • Another participant points out that there is no variable "t" in the equation, only "x" and "m".
  • A participant expresses their lack of experience with Mathematica and polynomial division, indicating they have not attempted any solutions themselves.
  • One participant shares a Maple output for the equation, indicating it will be available once approved by a mentor.
  • Several participants provide Mathematica commands to solve the equation for "m" in terms of "x", noting the structure of the solution.
  • A later reply discusses rearranging the equation and simplifying it, suggesting that the cubic part does not involve "m", which may simplify the problem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solving the equation, and there are varying levels of understanding and experience with the tools mentioned. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented without resolution.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their mathematical skills and the tools available to them, which may affect their ability to engage with the problem effectively.

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:redface: Can I please have the solution of the trinomial

x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2+(8/3)*(m+10)*x+(160/3)(m-1)=0

in terms of the unknown variable "t"?

I' ve heard that it can be done in 'mathematica'.
 
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There is no unknown variable "t". There is an "x" and there is an "m".
 
Sorry I meant "m"
 
What have you done so far?
 
I don't understand what you mean. I' ve done nothing.
I don't have a mathematica I that's what you are asking.
I don't remember the Horner 'thing' or the polynomial division, and I was wondering if someone could help me.
 
I've attached the maple output, you'll be able to see it as soon as one of the mentors approves it. I just didn't have the energy to format it into tex, anyway, this way there's no chance of transcription error.
 

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Thanks Curious
 
solution

with mathematica
Solve[x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2+(8/3)*(m+10)*x+(160/3)(m-1)Š0,m]

m -> {160 - 80x - 41x^2 - 3x^3 / 8 (20+x) }
 
nn987 said:
with mathematica
Solve[x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2+(8/3)*(m+10)*x+(160/3)(m-1)Š0,m]

m -> {160 - 80x - 41x^2 - 3x^3 / 8 (20+x) }
We are solving the equation for x kin terms of m, not for m in terms of x. :)
 
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cubic equation

ok :
solved the equation for x in terms of m
 

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x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2+(8/3)*(m+10)*x+(160/3)(m-1)=0

x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2 all this can be written as...a

a+8mx/3+80x/3+160m/3-160/3=0
160/3-80x/3-a=8mx/3+160m/3
160-80x-3a=m(8x+160)


m={160-80x-3[x^3+(11+(8/3))*x^2]}/(8x+160)

and you can simplify it however you please. i don't see the difficulty since the cubic part didn't have an m in it lol.
 

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