Can Telescope Size Indicate Wavelength Range?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between telescope size and the range of wavelengths that can be detected. Participants explore whether the diameter of a telescope's mirror indicates its capability to receive different wavelengths, including visible light, radio, and x-rays. The context includes theoretical considerations and references to specific telescopes used in astronomical observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the size of a telescope, such as the 3.5m and 10m mirrors, provides any indication of the wavelengths that can be received.
  • Another participant asserts that these telescopes can only receive visible wavelengths and suggests that radio and x-ray emissions are detected by different types of telescopes.
  • Some participants argue that the diameter of a telescope does not solely determine the wavelengths it can observe, proposing that the material of the reflector and the optical system play significant roles.
  • A later reply clarifies that the telescopes in question were used to observe the motions of stars near a known radio and x-ray source, rather than directly detecting those emissions.

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Participants express differing views on whether telescope size correlates with wavelength detection capability. There is no consensus on the implications of telescope diameter for observing various wavelengths, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how different telescopes operate across various wavelengths.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include assumptions about the capabilities of different telescopes and the specific contexts in which they were used. The discussion highlights the complexity of interpreting observational data from multiple types of telescopes.

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I have been reading an article that refers to telescopes but I don’t really understand telescope sizes;

http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso0226/

For instance take the 3.5-m New Technology Telescope.
I assume that the 3.5m refers to the diameter of the parabolic mirror.

Does the 3.5m give any indication of the range of wavelengths that can be received?

There is also the 10m Keck telescope. Presumably this can detect much fainter objects than the 3.5m but once again does the size of the mirror give more information than the cross sectional area of photons it can make use of?

Both the above telescopes were used to examine the centre of our galaxy.
They received both radio and x-ray emmissions.

But radio emmissions are long wavelength and x-ray are very short wavelength.

Can the above telescopes really cope with such a range of wavelengths?
 
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Hi Zman! :smile:

No, the telescopes with 3.5m and 10m diameters can only receive visible wavelengths.

The visible photos of the centre of the galaxy must have been compared with radio and x-ray pictures from radio and x-ray telescopes, to find out exactly where the radio waves and x-rays were coming from.

Radio telescopes need much larger mirrors, while x-ray telescopes can't be made in the usual way because x-rays go through nearly everything, so they're difficult to focus! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Zman! :smile:

No, the telescopes with 3.5m and 10m diameters can only receive visible wavelengths.

The visible photos of the centre of the galaxy must have been compared with radio and x-ray pictures from radio and x-ray telescopes, to find out exactly where the radio waves and x-rays were coming from.

Radio telescopes need much larger mirrors, while x-ray telescopes can't be made in the usual way because x-rays go through nearly everything, so they're difficult to focus! :wink:

Why should the diameter of a telescope determine the wavelength of light it can receive? Radio telescopes can vary from a few meters to over 300 meters in diameter...

The only thing that should determine what wavelength a telescope can see is the material the reflector is made from, be it glass, metal screen, concrete etc... and the optical system which is actually recording the photons.
 
Mu naught said:
Why should the diameter of a telescope determine the wavelength of light it can receive? Radio telescopes can vary from a few meters to over 300 meters in diameter...
Tiny-tim meant the the two telescopes the OP linked to are both visible/near IR.
 
Zman said:
I have been reading an article that refers to telescopes but I don’t really understand telescope sizes;

http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso0226/


Both the above telescopes were used to examine the centre of our galaxy.
They received both radio and x-ray emmissions.

But radio emmissions are long wavelength and x-ray are very short wavelength.

Can the above telescopes really cope with such a range of wavelengths?

Hi Zman;
You have apparently mistakenly read this paragraph from the article:
[/ "Using the motions of these stars to probe the gravitational field, observations with the 3.5-m New Technology Telescope (NTT) at the ESO La Silla Observatory (Chile) (and subsequently at the 10-m Keck telescope, Hawaii, USA) over the last decade have shown that a mass of about 3 million times that of the Sun is concentrated within a radius of only 10 light-days [5] of the compact radio and X-ray source SgrA* ("Sagittarius A") at the center of the star cluster."

The article may seem to imply that these two telescopes observed the radio and x-ray source, but in reality they only observed the motions of several stars (optically) that are very rapidly orbiting about the area of an already known radio and x-ray source...an area which was previously determined by radio and x-rays telescopes.

..
 

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