Can the amount of moles in a mixture be determined using mass and molar mass?

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The discussion centers on determining the amount of moles in a mixture of two solids, specifically sodium chloride (NaCl) and sucrose (C12H22O11), given a total mass of 15.0 g. Participants agree that simply multiplying the total mass by the inverse of the sum of the molar masses of the components is invalid without knowing the specific fractions of each component in the mixture. The conversation highlights that the total moles of a solution cannot be accurately calculated without the composition percentages of the individual substances.

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General question:

If given the mass (15.0 g) of a mixture of two solids (NaCl + C12H22O11), can I find the amount of moles in the mixture by multiplying (15.0 g)*(mol / mass NaCl + mass C12H22O11)? I don't think this is valid, but I don't know why not...
 
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i don't think you can really do that... mainly because you don't know what fraction of the mixture is NaCl or C12H22O11.
 
Well what if you're just trying to find the moles of solution present? Then would it matter the fraction of each?
 
well.. that is sort of impossible to say the total moles of "solution present". for example, try making up your own values for a solution... like 20% A (molar mass 20) and 80% B (molar mass 5). you could then find find moles A and moles B and add them up together to find total moles.
now try doing it again except with like 50% A and 50% B. You should get a different number of moles.. at least i hope so lol
 
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