Can the Li7 problem be resolved by increasing the dark matter ratio?

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The discussion revolves around the Li7 problem in cosmology, specifically whether increasing the dark matter ratio could resolve discrepancies in the baryon:photon ratio and its implications for the energy density of the Universe. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects of Big Bang nucleosynthesis (BBN) and the role of stellar physics in understanding lithium abundance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the WMAP results indicate a baryon:photon ratio of ~6.2x10-10 and questions if increasing the dark:baryonic mass ratio could address the Li7 problem, given the constraints on energy density.
  • Another participant argues that the baryon/dark matter ratio is tightly constrained by WMAP, suggesting that altering this ratio would significantly affect the CMB power spectrum beyond measurement errors.
  • Some participants propose that the solution to the Li7 problem may lie in stellar physics rather than BBN, with one suggesting that Pop III stars could have burned up lithium-7.
  • There is a shared sentiment among participants that the understanding of Pop III stars and their processes is limited, which complicates the discussion about their role in lithium abundance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the potential resolution of the Li7 problem, with some favoring adjustments to dark matter ratios and others emphasizing stellar processes. No consensus is reached on the best approach or explanation.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of stellar processes and the potential influence of metallicity in the early Universe, which may not align with existing theoretical expectations.

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Currently the WMAP results give a baryon:photon ratio of ~6.2x10-10, and a dark:baryonic mass ratio of ~5. When added to the energy density of photons + neutrinos (+dark energy at later times), the total density is then critical for a flat Universe. The BB nucleosynthesis analysis of the relative abundance of 4He, D, 3He, and 7Li strongly suggest that the baryon:photon ratio is <4.5x10-10 with 4-5 sigmas confidence level (excluding some kind of likely systematic error in 7Li) See figs 3 and 4 of

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.2818v1.pdf

If the dark:baryonic mass ratio remains ~5, and we believe the 7Li results, this would put the energy density at the CMB last scattering surface at only ~79% of critical. Can this be fixed simply by increasing the dark:baryonic mass ratio, or is there some independent reason the ratio must be 5?
 
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WMAP already constrains the baryon/dark matter ratio incredibly tightly. You just can't change that ratio much without altering the power spectrum of the CMB far outside of WMAP's measurement errors.

What this may be telling us, however, is something interesting about the temperature of the dark matter. If the dark matter has some non-zero temperature, it may potentially have some impact on BBN. However, I strongly suspect that the real answer lies in stellar physics, not in BBN.
 
Chalnoth said:
However, I strongly suspect that the real answer lies in stellar physics, not in BBN.

Same here. My first guess would be that the Li-7 was burned up by Pop III stars. (What pop III stars? Well the same one's that magically produced the heavy elements in quasars.)

It's easier to burn up light elements than to produce them.
 
I sympathize with Twofish. There is a lot about pop III stars we do not have a handle on [not to mention stellar processes in general]. Obviously, the early universe was more heavily polluted by metallicity than expected by theory.
 

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