Can the Photoelectric Effect Distinguish Between Classical and Quantum Theories?

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect and its implications for distinguishing between classical and quantum theories of light. Participants are examining the relationship between light intensity and photocurrent, exploring how these concepts align with classical physics versus quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are analyzing the classical interpretation of the photoelectric effect, particularly how intensity relates to photocurrent. Questions are raised about the validity of classical explanations and whether they adequately account for the observed phenomena.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into classical theories and questioning their completeness. Some have edited their responses to clarify their positions, indicating a willingness to refine their understanding. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is exploring various interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the nature of electromagnetic waves and the mechanisms by which electrons absorb energy. The constraints of the homework context may limit the depth of exploration into quantum explanations.

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Homework Statement



In the photoelectric experiments the photocurrent is proportional to the intensity of the light.Can this result alone be used to distinguish between the classical and quantum theories?

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As I know, this feature of photoelectric effect is the only feture that is compatible with classical concepts.So,this cannot be used like that...

[Classical Idea: As you increase the intensity of the light,you are treating the free surface electrons with Electric field and magnetic field of bigger amplitude---Force on them is bigger and they can speed up more promptly giving a bigger value of photoelectric current.]

Please check the classical idea.
 
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[Classical Idea: As you increase the intensity of the light,you are treating the free surface electrons with Electric field and magnetic field of bigger amplitude---Force on them is bigger and they can speed up more promptly giving a bigger value of photoelectric current.]

(I am editing my response, as I misread the question the first time.)

It is true that the photocurrent would increase with intensity in the classical theory. A greater intensity was supposed to decrease the time lag before the electron was released, thereby allowing more electrons to be set free in a given span of time and increasing the current. This seems to be roughly what your explanation says, though I wouldn't word it quite that way.

I'm not sure about intensity being exactly proportional to photocurrent in the classical theory, though. I suppose this depends on the mode of absorbing the energy. If the absorption rate was proportional to energy, then it would be proportional (since intensity is proportional to energy.)
 
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Neelakash: Check your classical explanation. An EM wave is made up of an alternating E-field. Why should a larger amplitude in an alternating E-field produce a larger dc current?
 
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Gokul43201 said:
This is extremely misleading.

Yes, I have edited my response. I hope I did not mislead anyone too badly. :frown:

Neelakash: Check your classical explanation. An EM wave is made up of an alternating E-field. Why should a larger amplitude in an alternating E-field produce a larger dc current?

The electron was supposed to have a way of gradually absorbing the energy, until at some point the accumulated energy was enough to free it.
 

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