Can Vacuum Glazed Sunglasses Provide Maximum Eye Protection?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of vacuum glazed sunglasses and their potential for providing maximum eye protection, particularly in extreme conditions. Participants explore the theoretical benefits and practical implications of incorporating a vacuum layer in sunglass design, including considerations of thermal insulation and electromagnetic radiation protection.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the expected benefits of a vacuum in sunglasses, arguing that electromagnetic radiation would still penetrate a vacuum, as it does not prevent radiation from reaching Earth.
  • Others suggest that the primary advantage of a vacuum would be to prevent heat transfer, potentially keeping the eyes warm in extremely cold conditions.
  • There is a discussion about the suitability of sunglasses versus goggles for cold weather, with some noting that goggles provide better insulation due to their sealing around the eyes.
  • Some participants propose that goggles could be designed with both electromagnetic radiation and vacuum protection, although this raises questions about practicality.
  • Concerns are raised about the thickness and weight of vacuum glazed sunglasses, with one participant noting that a vacuum layer would necessitate thicker and heavier glasses.
  • It is mentioned that flat glass is not very effective at handling significant pressure differences, which could impact the feasibility of such designs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and practicality of vacuum glazed sunglasses, with no consensus reached on whether such a design would provide significant benefits over traditional sunglasses or goggles.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the effectiveness of vacuum insulation in sunglasses, the impact of electromagnetic radiation, and the structural integrity of glass under pressure differences. The discussion does not resolve these technical uncertainties.

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Is there such a thing? Wouldn't such a thing give ultimate protection for the eyes?
I first thought i would post this in general engineering, b/c i have another question: How thick must the total eyepiece be if i need 2 semi-transparent sunglass material (of the size of a standard sunglass eyepeice) and a layer of vacuum between them?
 
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Why do you expect a positive effect of a vacuum? Sunglasses are against electromagnetic radiation, if that radiation could not go through vacuum it wouldn't reach Earth anyway.
 
mfb said:
Why do you expect a positive effect of a vacuum? Sunglasses are against electromagnetic radiation, if that radiation could not go through vacuum it wouldn't reach Earth anyway.
The prime reason of the vacuum being there is to prevent heat transfer, so that the eyes can stay warm, in temperatures like -30 celsius with strong winds.
 
Generally, for very cold weather, people wear goggles. Sunglasses don't seal around the eyes, so insulation wouldn't do anything for them.
 
russ_watters said:
Generally, for very cold weather, people wear goggles. Sunglasses don't seal around the eyes, so insulation wouldn't do anything for them.
Point. So then goggles with EM radiation and vacuum protection?
 
Algren said:
Point. So then goggles with EM radiation and vacuum protection?
Astronaut helmets don't use multi-pane glass, so I don't see how extra insulation solves any real problems.
 
russ_watters said:
Astronaut helmets don't use multi-pane glass, so I don't see how extra insulation solves any real problems.
Well, they have the vacuum for free.

You could reduce thermal conductivity with a layer of vacuum, but compared to other points of heat transfer the glass doesn't sound like a major problem. A vacuum would also mean that the glasses have to be quite thick and heavy.
 
russ_watters said:
Astronaut helmets don't use multi-pane glass, so I don't see how extra insulation solves any real problems.
Right. Well, i guess that closes this case.
 
mfb said:
quite thick and heavy.
Thats what I'm wondering about, is this primarily because of low quality/normal glass?
 
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It is primarily because flat glass is not very good in handling 105 Pa pressure difference.
 
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