Can we learn to unlearn aggression?

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The discussion centers on the nature of aggression in humans and its evolutionary implications. Participants explore whether aggression is an inherent part of humanity or if societies can evolve beyond it, citing examples of peaceful cultures that historically lacked a vocabulary for war. The conversation also touches on the role of aggression in sports and its distinction from uncontrolled violent behavior, suggesting that controlled aggression can be beneficial. Additionally, there is debate over the relationship between gender, aggression, and societal progress, with some arguing that male aggression has historically contributed to both problems and advancements. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects on the complexities of aggression as a survival mechanism and its varying expressions across different contexts.
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mheslep said:
The guy who kills the bear instead of hanging in the cave, or moves the tribe to hopefully better ground, is the higher *risk* taker than his peers, and perhaps uses some aggression to coerce peers to help out. He then gets his risk taking genes into the next generation by further aggression against his peers competing for mates, as does in the alpha in whatever species. Granted that aggression has to have an off switch, either internal or some kind or via some point of rebellion in the members of the pack, or the pack/tribe doesn't last long.
Agression and risk taking aren't the same thing.
 
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houlahound said:
Or the less aggressive smart guy invents traps, weapons and trains semi domesticated wolves to hunt with and kills 10 bears with minimal risk and the ladies think he is more breed worthy because of it.

Perhaps the aggressive smart guys does these things instead. I don't think intelligence and aggression are directly related to each other.
 
  • #33
Drakkith said:
Perhaps the aggressive smart guys does these things instead. I don't think intelligence and aggression are directly related to each other.
When I was in college there was a saying that I heard many times: "The more angry someone becomes, the less sense they make."

In my experience it has always proven true. I don't think it would be too hard to design a study to test it, either.
 
  • #34
zoobyshoe said:
When I was in college there was a saying that I heard many times: "The more angry someone becomes, the less sense they make."

In my experience it has always proven true. I don't think it would be too hard to design a study to test it, either.

That's anger, not aggression.
 
  • #35
Drakkith said:
I don't think intelligence and aggression are directly related to each other.

perhaps not if you are talking strictly about physical aggression.

I consider it self evident that anyone pushing at the frontiers of knowledge, in particular physics, is an extreme outlier in terms of intellectual aggression starting from Giordano Bruno, Galileo...and also Darwin.

given the times these guys lived in they had nerves of steel and some serious aggressive minds and courageous hearts.
 
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houlahound said:
perhaps not if you are talking strictly about physical aggression.

No one seems to be talking about aggression at all, nor is there such thing as intellectual aggression in this context. Please don't make up stuff when there are perfectly good definitions available, especially when they've been posted in-thread.

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