Can You Always Factor the Denominator in Partial Fraction Expansion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the denominator in partial fraction expansions can be factored, particularly in the context of control systems and LaPlace transforms. Participants explore the implications of different types of roots (real, repeated, or complex) on the factorization process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Rune, questions whether the denominator of the form \( s^2 + 2\zeta\omega_{n}s + \omega_{n}^{2} \) can always be factored into linear terms based on its roots.
  • Rune proposes that the roots \( s_{1} \) and \( s_{2} \) can be used for partial fraction expansion as long as they are defined, noting that they may be real and distinct, repeated, or complex conjugates.
  • Another participant mentions that factorization is valid only if there are no repeated real roots in the quadratic, providing an example where the presence of a repeated root leads to a different form of partial fraction decomposition.
  • Rune acknowledges an error in their earlier work, indicating that the discussion has led to a clarification of their understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for factorization, particularly regarding repeated roots. There is no consensus on a definitive rule applicable to all cases.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of recognizing the nature of the roots when performing partial fraction expansions, which may affect the approach taken in specific scenarios.

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Now this is a pretty straight forward question. And I just want to make sure that I am not doing anything stupid.

But when doing partial fraction expansions of the type

\frac{K}{s^{2}+2\zeta\omega_{n}s+\omega_{n}^{2}} Shouldnt I always be able to factor the denominator into the following:

\left(s-s_{1}\right)\left(s-s_{2}\right)

where

s_{1} = -\zeta\omega_{n}+\omega_{n}\sqrt{\zeta^{2}-1} and
s_{2} = -\zeta\omega_{n}-\omega_{n}\sqrt{\zeta^{2}-1}

And thus being able to make the following expansion:

\frac{A}{s-s_{1}}+\frac{A}{s-s_{2}} = \frac{K}{\left(s-s_{1}\right)\left(s-s_{2}\right)}

Since s1 and s2 are the roots of the polynomial?

These roots may ofcourse either be real and distinct, repeated or complex conjugates.

Thank in advance,
Rune
 
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The reason for the question is that I am reading for an exam for Control Systems. And I am using LaPlace transforms to solve the differential equations.

To get back to the time-domain I am using partial fraction expansions, and for example right now I am trying to do the partial fraction expansion of

\frac{K}{s\cdot\left(s^{2}+2\zeta\omega_{n}s + ω_{n}^{2} \right)}

And I am trying to determine whether I am actually doing it wrong when factoring, or whether I can actually solve the problem by expanding to the following:

\frac{A}{s}+\frac{B}{s-s_{1}}+\frac{C}{s-s_{2}} = \frac{K}{s\cdot\left(s-s_{1}\right)\cdot\left(s-s_{2}\right)}
 
This factorization is fine, as long as there are no repeated real roots in the quadratic.

Consider the case where the denominator is s(s2 + 4s + 4). Here is the partial fraction decomposition:

$$ \frac{K}{s(s^2 + 4s + 4)} = \frac{A}{s} + \frac{B}{s + 2} + \frac{C}{(s + 2)^2}$$
 
Thank you Mark!

I actually found an error further back in my work and that was because I didn't get the correct result. But thank you for clarifying and making me sure :)
 

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