Cdf (Cumulative Density Function) Confusion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the confusion regarding the definition and calculation of the cumulative density function (CDF) for a kinked probability density function (PDF). Participants explore the correct formulation of the CDF and the implications of using different variables in integration.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Josh, presents a formulation for the CDF involving a kinked PDF and expresses confusion over the use of different variables in the integral.
  • Another participant corrects Josh's formulation, stating that the usual definition of the CDF is F(s) = ∫-∞s f(x) dx, and notes that using s as both a variable of integration and a bound can lead to confusion.
  • A third participant defines a kinked PDF as one that has two different functions over different ranges, agreeing with the previous correction.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of the same variable (s) in multiple contexts within the equations, suggesting that it could lead to misunderstandings.
  • Josh expresses frustration that university lecturers should adhere to better practices in their presentations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the standard definition of the CDF and the potential issues with variable usage, but there is no consensus on the appropriateness of the lecturers' approach or the definition of a kinked PDF.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential for confusion when using the same variable for different purposes in mathematical expressions and the importance of clarity in definitions, particularly in educational contexts.

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Hi there,

So regular i thought that the procedure was
F(s) = ∫s0 f(x) dx

However i am doing a problem with a kinked pdf and it is telling me to do something like

F(s) = ∫s0 f(s) ds for 0=<s>=1/2

then...
F(s) = F(1/2) + ∫s1/2 f(s) ds

I am confused at the process of using f(x) or f(s) in the integral and the situation with kinked pdfs, if someone can shed some light on this i would be greatful.

Thanks,
Josh
 
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I don't know what the definition of a kinked pdf is, but a couple of corrections -

The usual definition is
[tex]F(s) = \int_{-\infty}^{s} f(x) dx[/tex]
Your definition only works if you know [itex]f(x) = 0[/itex] for all x<0

After that you have s as a variable of integration and as a bound of integration - be careful not to do that!

The last equation you wrote though is just an application of the fundamental theorem of calculus. Once you have F(s) defined either by your integral or mine, we get that
[tex]F'(s) = f(s)[/tex]
And therefore for all a and b
[tex]F(b) - F(a) = \int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx[/tex]
In particular if a = 1/2 and b=s we get
[tex]F(s) - F(1/2) = \int_{1/2}^{s} f(x) dx[/tex]
Adding F(1/2) to both sides gives your final equation
 
In my university module they define a kinked pdf as a pdf having two functions over differing ranges.

I agree with everything you put here thanks. If you have a look at my solution paper you see that the s variable is part of the integration range and also the function, does this mean that they are wrong?

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Using s to mean two different things in the same equation is usually frowned upon - I would change it so the variable inside the integral is different.
 
No i agree i was just confused as these are university lecturers writing this, they shouldn't really be giving bad practices.
 

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