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Cheney refuses to report classification activity

  1. May 27, 2006 #1
    http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/

    What kind of hold does this man have on the current administration that he is allowed to carry out such outrageous acts. The man can classify his own actions and conduct at will. Yet he does not report that he has classified anything.
     
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  3. May 28, 2006 #2

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    Imagine that, coming from Cheney (A.K.A. "sneer"). As a side note, I saw a photo of him the other day in which he was actually smiling, and he still looked like a dog about to attack.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13011331/ --

    Riiight, they classify everything, like what color the sky is, what their names are, etc. Terrorists schmerroists. Negroponte -- It would be fine with me if he and other Gestapo brethren like Gonzalez did resign.

    I would use a word other than "undemocratic." Try fascist.

    Of course, but that would ruin everything and then they could no longer spy on innocent Americans along with the entire world.
     
  4. May 28, 2006 #3
    It seems almost as if a secret shadowy group has written their own extra-constitution and the real United Sates Cnstitution has ended up in their paper shredders.

    Under this new "Classified" Constitution Cheney has authorized the corporate world to run the NSA and the CIA.

    The truth may eventually set us free, but first it is going to scare the bejeeses out of us.
     
  5. May 30, 2006 #4

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    Just out of curiosity, is this (refusal to report to ISOO) unprecedented among Veeps ?
     
  6. May 30, 2006 #5
    As far as I can determine it is unprecedented, unless you count the past years that he has refused. Or if you count the unprcedented law suit Cheney fought against the Government Accountability Office in regards to his secret meeting with the big oil executives. This guy is accountable to absolutely no one.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002962226_cheney30.html

     
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  7. May 31, 2006 #6

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    It is so obvious that Bush/Cheney are among the worst, if not the biggest power-grabbing !%@*&#! in our history, it amazes me how many people remain supportive of these %#@!*&!. Let's all start sending letters to them as follows:

    This is to inform you that the United States of America is a republic, NOT a dictatorship or monarchy. "We the people" just want to make sure you are aware of this. :rolleyes: :bugeye:
     
  8. May 31, 2006 #7
    It gets worse

    Here is another victory for the Cheney/Bush cabal. It appears that the Jack Booted Thugs, that Reagan used to mention when referring to totalitarian leaders, are now in the Whitehouse.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/31/Worldandnation/High_court_trims_whis.shtml
     
  9. Jun 4, 2006 #8

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    Domestic Terrorists

    Bush gets executive privilege while whistleblowers get the shaft:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/washington/04secrets.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

    I'm not yet a member of the ACLU, but I think I'll get on that ASAP. And then hope the elections in 2006 aren't rigged, or I fear we will see the fullness of a police state at that time...
     
  10. Jun 4, 2006 #9
    That's it, I'm running for Pres.
    After all, my occassional immoralities and heavy-handed egotism seems to qualify me quite well.
     
  11. Jun 7, 2006 #10
    http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=telecomm&storyID=nN06189241

    This is getting bizzare. Cheney is indicating that telephone company executives may hold confidential information and not be required to reveal it to the senate Judiciary Committee. It is evident that the Vice President of this country makes the deciscions on intel matters.

    I am concerened about what this administration has become and where all of this secrecy may lead us. This has gone far beyond fighting terrorism. Cheney has some deeply rooted ulterior motives when he would place his trust in big businesses above that of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
     
  12. Jun 7, 2006 #11
    Isn't apart of his job to keep things classifed? It also says that he won't disclose it because of an executive order issued by President Bush. Isn't Bush his boss so he can't disclose it if the president can't?
     
  13. Jun 7, 2006 #12

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    If you are responding to a specific post, please quote that post.
    Cheney's? I believe his job does include making decisions on what gets classified. I don't believe he has the authority to declassify data though.

    Who won't disclose what? And what's the "it" that says this?

    Possibly...depends on what this "it" is.
     
  14. Jun 7, 2006 #13
    The information is it.
     
  15. Jun 7, 2006 #14
    My thoughts:

    Executive branch "classification" is a privilege with "conditions"
    That is, the classification is completely legal on initial issuence, but subject, at any time, to revocation by the congressional oversite intelligence committee or other pertinant congressional entities.
     
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  16. Jun 7, 2006 #15
    Where it get's weird is when the "classification" is stated to be judically based. Congress has no direct authority for revocation.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2006 #16
    Cheney is not giving any committe anything period. He claims that Bush has given him the authority to classify and declassify anything and also to refuse to disclose information to any government agency.

    That is the problem.
     
  18. Jun 7, 2006 #17
    Your fishing here scott1.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...70039may27,1,1588921.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
    The activity report is for his boss, he is maintaining that since he also has legislative duties that he is not subject to executive branch rules. :bugeye:

    Is that like being above the law?
     
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  21. Jun 8, 2006 #20
    Below is the recent letter sent from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter to vice president Dick Cheney. It appears that Cheney had been lobbying members of the committee without the knowledge of the committee chairman.

    This is very disturbing, we have a secret government within a legitiment government running this country.

    http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/06/07/cheney.pdf
     
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