Chile's Most Renowned Patriot: The Strange History of Bernardo O'Higgins

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The discussion revolves around the historical figure Bernardo O'Higgins, his role in Chile's independence, and the implications of his name and heritage. Participants explore various perspectives on O'Higgins' significance as a patriot and draw connections to other historical figures and concepts, including race theory and typography.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds it odd that a person named O'Higgins is considered Chile's most renowned patriot, questioning the implications of his heritage as the illegitimate son of a Spanish officer.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial observation, likening it to a joke from Monty Python.
  • A third participant introduces Houston Stewart Chamberlain as a significant figure in race theory and national socialism, suggesting a broader context of influential historical figures.
  • A different participant mentions Joseph C. Gayetty, discussing his contributions to the 20th century through the invention of packaged toilet paper, indicating a shift in focus to lesser-known historical impacts.
  • Another post provides a detailed explanation of the origins of the term typography and its historical context, including references to Charlemagne and the development of scripts.
  • A final comment highlights the forum's collection of fascinating facts, suggesting a shared interest in historical trivia.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of O'Higgins' name and heritage, with some finding it humorous while others introduce unrelated historical figures and topics, indicating a lack of consensus on the main focus of the discussion.

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The discussion includes various tangents that may distract from the central topic of O'Higgins, with references to race theory and typography that introduce additional layers of complexity without resolving the initial question about O'Higgins' legacy.

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Readers interested in historical figures, the complexities of national identity, and the interplay of names and heritage in shaping perceptions of patriotism may find this discussion engaging.

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This struck me as odd.

On February 12, 1818, Chile was proclaimed an independent republic under O'Higgins' leadership. An army led by Bernardo O'Higgins, Chile's most renowned patriot, and José de San Martín, hero of Argentine independence, crossed the Andes into Chile and defeated the royalists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile

It just struck me as strange that a guy name O'Higgins would be Chile's most renowned patriot.

O'Higgins was born in Chillán, Chile. As noted in his certificate of Baptism, he was the illegitimate son of Ambrosio O'Higgins, a Spanish officer from County Sligo in Ireland, who became governor of Chile and later viceroy of Peru. His mother was Isabel Riquelme, a prominent lady of Chillán.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_O'Higgins
 
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Astronuc said:
It just struck me as strange that a guy name O'Higgins would be Chile's most renowned patriot.
I agree. It sounds like a Monty Python joke.
 
In the GD forum, I was going to suggest Joseph C Gayetty as one of the most influencial people of the 20th century, but he came a little early so it seemed fitting to honor his legacy here instead.
Joseph C. Gayetty of New York started producing the first packaged toilet paper in the U.S. in 1857. It consisted of pre-moistened flat sheets medicated with aloe and was named "Gayetty’s Medicated Paper". Gayetty's name was printed on every sheet. [continued with many more fascinating facts from the rear gaurd]
http://nobodys-perfect.com/vtpm/ExhibitHall/Informational/tphistorycontent.html
 
From Merriam-Webster Online - "Word for the Wise" -

The term typography comes from the Greek terms for "impression" plus "writing." The type known as Caroline minuscule dates back to the reign of Charlemagne, late in the 8th century. The name of the Frankish ruler Charlemagne—King Charles—gave us the Latinism Caroline or Carolingian. The word minuscule, which comes from the Latin term meaning "rather small," originally named "script composed of lower case letters."

Got all that? Then we're ready to move ahead to explain how that script came into being. Charlemagne, whose efforts as a grown man to teach himself to write had been met, according to his biographer, with ill-success, commissioned the development of a standardized and legible script to be used throughout his lands.

During the Renaissance, Italian printers looking for a less Teutonic style of print borrowed the Carolingian minuscule under the impression they had discovered a script dating back to Ancient Rome. They were wrong, but the clean Carolingian retained its popularity long enough to be considered the basis of modern typefaces.
A semi-literate Emperor. Perhaps he dictated his thoughts and commands to scribes.

Interesting though, I wonder how many kings and queens could not write?