Choosing a Career in Physics: General or Experimental & Theoretical?

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The discussion centers around the considerations involved in choosing a career in physics, specifically whether to pursue general physics or experimental and theoretical physics. Participants explore educational pathways, prerequisites, and personal readiness for university-level physics and mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a newfound interest in physics and contemplates becoming a physics teacher or scientist, but is uncertain about their preparedness due to a lack of formal physics and math education in their current curriculum.
  • Another participant notes that in the US, undergraduate physics programs do not differentiate between general and specialized physics, suggesting a straightforward major in physics.
  • A participant from the UK mentions the option of a "Foundation Year" to cover necessary prerequisites, indicating that while there are different tracks, employability remains largely similar across them.
  • A participant from Serbia describes the educational structure, highlighting the need for three years of general physics to become a teacher and four years of experimental and theoretical physics for further education or employment, expressing concern about their ability to succeed in these programs.
  • Some participants question the feasibility of the original poster's current educational situation, suggesting they should advocate for more math and physics courses, despite potential social stigma associated with changing schools or repeating a year.
  • One participant emphasizes that university is about increasing knowledge and that initial understanding is less critical than the ability to adapt and learn during the course of study.

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Participants express varying perspectives on the educational pathways available in different countries and the importance of prior knowledge versus the learning process at university. There is no consensus on the best approach to take, as concerns about preparedness and educational structures differ significantly.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight differences in educational systems across countries, including the availability of foundation years and the structure of physics programs. Concerns about social perceptions of educational choices and the importance of adaptability in learning are also noted.

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In the past few months I've really began to like physics. In the past year, I was sure I was going to become an English teacher/translator or something language related but in the light of the last physics lessons we learned (my class doesn't have physics as a subject anymore) I decided that I would prefer becoming a physics teacher (or a scientist!). However, there are a few problems. At math, I'm pretty knowledgeable on the basic stuff (also no more maths for my class for the next 1 and a half year) and I'm familiar with the basic principles of physics, but before choosing which University I'm going to enroll at and which course, I have 1 and a half year (my knowledge might decrease, but I'm thinking of homeschooling myself not to forget them). I have come down to two options (if I decide for physics): general physics (then becoming a teacher) or experimental and theoretical physics (then getting a Phd, becoming a scientist). Now, I'm worried that this basic stuff will be enough to enable me to enroll at one of those courses, but also that it won't be enough for me to successfully finish one of them. So, my question would be: Should I go for general or e&t physics? Remember that I have basic understandings of both and both seem equally interesting to me (ok... maybe QM a bit more interesting).
 
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What country are you in? In the US, you'd just major in physics. There's no differentiation at the undergrad level.
 
In the UK, if you're worried about not having the prerequisites, you can apply for a "Foundation Year", where you just go and cover the 2 years of A level Physics and Maths, then you rejoin the main programme for a 3 year BSc.

In the UK you can do things like "theoretical physics" at undergrad, but there is little effective distinction in terms of employability, just a slightly different courseload. (less labs and more computing/maths).
 
I'm in Serbia and things are a bit different here than in the US. After 3 years of general physics in a physics faculty (college for physics, don't know if that's what you call it) I can become a teacher, but I need 4 years of e&t physics to continue education or try to get a job. My main concern is, will I be able to finish those 3 years successfully? Like I said in my previous post, I have basic understandings of both math and physics and that would be enough for me to enroll it, but will it be enough to help me finish it? Is it very hard?
 
You say "my class doesn't have physics as a subject anymore ... also no more maths for my class for the next 1 and a half year..." That seems pretty strange for anyone thinking of doing a physics degree! Can't you insist on changing to do mostly maths & physics? Even if it means repeating a year, or changing schools?
 
shinokk said:
I have basic understandings of both math and physics and that would be enough for me to enroll it, but will it be enough to help me finish it? Is it very hard?

This is a weird question.The whole point of going to a university is that you want increase your level of knowledge. A couple of weeks into your first semester your level of knowledge will be above your level when you enrolled.Getting your degree depends on your ability to raise yourself at the level required by the university not on your initial level of understanding.

Knowing as much stuff at the beginning helps, but if it would be enough to get you trough your degree than why would you bother.
 
mal4mac said:
You say "my class doesn't have physics as a subject anymore ... also no more maths for my class for the next 1 and a half year..." That seems pretty strange for anyone thinking of doing a physics degree! Can't you insist on changing to do mostly maths & physics? Even if it means repeating a year, or changing schools?

I could do that, but that would mean I would have to pass a few tests and pay some money to get transferred. Also, losing a year here is a big taboo - people start looking at you like you're mentally ill or something like that.

bp_psy said:
This is a weird question.The whole point of going to a university is that you want increase your level of knowledge. A couple of weeks into your first semester your level of knowledge will be above your level when you enrolled.Getting your degree depends on your ability to raise yourself at the level required by the university not on your initial level of understanding.

Knowing as much stuff at the beginning helps, but if it would be enough to get you trough your degree than why would you bother.

Thank you, your words are reassuring and they actually make a lot of sense. My mind isn't yet completely set, but I'm probably going to try physics and hopefully I won't fail.
 

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