Circular Motion (twirling of a ball on a string)

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The discussion centers on the physics of circular motion, specifically regarding a bucket being twirled overhead. When the bucket is directly above the professor's head, the tension in the string is zero, leading to the conclusion that the only force acting on the bucket is gravity, resulting in an acceleration of 9.8 m/s² downward. The participants clarify that for circular motion, centripetal force is required, which can be provided by gravity when tension is absent. Misunderstandings regarding the terms "centripetal" and "centrifugal" are also addressed.

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Homework Statement



"A brick is in a bucket. The professor twirlings the bucket around his head in a circular motion. The moment that bucket is directly over his head. The tension is zero. What is the acceleration of the brick at this given moment?

I narrowed it down to two answers.
a) The tension cannot be zero
b) the acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2 DOWN


The Attempt at a Solution



I believe the tension cannot be zero because if there was no tension in the string, it would no longer continue on its circular motion.
The only thing that bothers me is the acceleration. I understand that the acceleration is proportional to the force, which would be the centrifugal force (centre seeking), so it would of course be down.

I asked the professor during the exam, "Don't both answers go hand in hand? are there not two answers for this question?". He said the question still stands. SO URRRRRRRRRRRG

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Assuming the bucket is undergoing uniform circular motion, the tension in the string can be zero the moment that the bucket is above the professor's head. Think of it this way: All of the bucket's velocity is directed in the horizontal direction at this point, so when it begins to fall vertically from this height, it then encounters resistance from the tension in the string; consequently, we can let the tension in the string be zero at this point only.

Since the tension is zero (only gravity is acting) and the bucket is moving in a circular orbit, we know that the bucket's acceleration is directed towards the center of the circle. Since only gravity acts, what does this suggest about the bucket's acceleration?

Sorry if this is incomprehensible.
 
jva9 said:
I believe the tension cannot be zero because if there was no tension in the string, it would no longer continue on its circular motion.
What's required for circular motion is a centripetal force, not necessarily from string tension. What other force is available to provide a downward force?
The only thing that bothers me is the acceleration. I understand that the acceleration is proportional to the force, which would be the centrifugal force (centre seeking), so it would of course be down.
That's centripetal, not centrifugal. (Centrifugal means "away from center".) What provides that force?
I asked the professor during the exam, "Don't both answers go hand in hand? are there not two answers for this question?". He said the question still stands.
You are told that the tension is zero. Use that information, but don't contradict it.
 

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