Circumference of Earth With Eratosthenes

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The problem involves Eratosthenes' method for measuring the Earth's circumference using angular measurements and distances between two locations in ancient Egypt. The original poster presents the scenario where the Sun's angle differs between Alexandria and Syene, prompting a calculation based on these observations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angle of 7.2 degrees and its representation in radians. There are attempts to clarify the geometric interpretation of the problem, including the relevance of drawing a circle and understanding the arc length associated with the angle.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the angle measurement and its implications for calculating the circumference. Some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric setup, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or methods to apply.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the historical context of Earth's shape and the measurement units involved, including the stade. Participants are also navigating the conversion between degrees and radians, which may affect their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the Earth by noting that the Sun is at an angle of 7°12' = 7.2° ("one-fiftieth of a circle") south of the vertical in Alexandria at the same time of day and year that it is directly overhead in Syene. Syene is 5000 stades directly south of Alexandria. (The stade was a Mediterranean unit of length that varied slightly from region to region, but in Egypt was most likely equal to 157.5 meters.) Find the circumference of the Earth from these data. The Earth's equatorial circumference is 40075 km according to NASA. What was Eratosthenes percent error?



Homework Equations



##a^2+b^2=c^2##

Conversion between stades/meters.

sin, tan, cosine perhaps?

The Attempt at a Solution



So I've gone ahead and tried to draw a diagram, and I tried to do the ##tan(7.2)=x/787500## but the number I got was incorrect. I got 787,500 meters by multiplying (5000)(157.5), since 1 stade is 157.5 meters, so I figured out that 5000 is 787,500 meters or 787KM
 
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What part of a circle is an arc of 7.2 degrees? Instead of degrees, think radians.
 
I'm not going to add to this except to point out that the Ancients knew the Earth was round LONG before Chrissie C. sailed the ocean-blue. (It really was blue then, now it's a continuum of pollution).
 
SteamKing said:
What part of a circle is an arc of 7.2 degrees? Instead of degrees, think radians.

so ##arctan(7.2)##? I am confused as to what you mean by what part of a circle is 7.2 degrees.
 
It's very simple. Syene lies due south of Alexandria a distance of 5000 stadia. By measurement of angles at these two locations, Eratosthenes determined that the arc which separates the two cities has a central angle of 7.2 degrees. Eratosthenes wants to determine the circumference of the Earth using these data.

To clarify his method, draw a circle and inscribe within two radii which are separated by an angle of 7.2 degrees.

(Hint: You are trying to determine the circumference of a circle, not figure out the sides of a triangle.)
 

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