Clarification on Proof by Contradiction

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The discussion centers on the proper formulation of a proof by contradiction for the proposition that the product of any five consecutive integers is divisible by 120. Jonathan initially misstates the negation of the proposition, leading to confusion in his proof structure. The correct negation should assert that there exist five consecutive integers whose product is not divisible by 120. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately negating propositions and the necessity of generalizing arguments beyond specific examples to establish a valid proof.

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  • #31
@Jonathanlikesmath now you are very rigorous but you did it the very hard way, I had in mind something like what @PeroK suggests at post #29.

More specifically, if we write the product as ##n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)## then it will be either ##n\pmod 5=0## in which case we are finished, or one of the cases of ##n\pmod 5=1,n\pmod 5=2,n\pmod 5=3,n\pmod 5=4##. If for example ##n\pmod 5=1## then ##(n+4)\pmod 5=n\pmod 5+4\pmod 5=1+4\pmod 5=5\pmod 5 =0##, hence in this case 5 divides n+4. Similarly we can handle the other cases.
 
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Delta2 said:
@Jonathanlikesmath now you are very rigorous but you did it the very hard way, I had in mind something like what @PeroK suggests at post #29.

More specifically, if we write the product as ##n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)## then it will be either ##n\pmod 5=0## in which case we are finished, or one of the cases of ##n\pmod 5=1,n\pmod 5=2,n\pmod 5=3,n\pmod 5=4##. If for example ##n\pmod 5=1## then ##(n+4)\pmod 5=n\pmod 5+4\pmod 5=1+4\pmod 5=5\pmod 5 =0##, hence in this case 5 divides n+4. Similarly we can handle the other cases.
Well, I soon won't forget this method. Thank you all for the help!
 
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PeroK said:
A better approach if you want to use modular arithmetic is to take:
$$P = (n - 2)(n-1)n(n+1)(n+2) = n(n^2 -1)(n^2 - 4)$$If ##n## is not divisible by ##3##, then ##n = 1## or ##2 \ (mod \ 3)##; ##n^2 = 1 \ (mod \ 3)##, so ##n^2 -1 ## is divisible by ##3##. Etc.
Just to say that I thought reducing the product to three terms looked like a good idea (and it is always something to consider), but in this case it doesn't really help. @Delta2 's method is much simpler!
 
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