Clarification regarding the proper use of constant C.

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The discussion revolves around the proper use and interpretation of the constant C in the context of integrating differential equations. Participants explore how different representations of the constant can affect the understanding and solutions of equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the constant C after integration, particularly in expressions like y = e^t + c and whether e^c can be treated as a new constant.
  • Another participant notes that C is typically used to satisfy initial conditions and suggests that it is usually placed in front of the exponent.
  • A different participant explains that C is an arbitrary constant and illustrates that various forms of the constant (e.g., c, c + 1, -c) can represent the same solution set, emphasizing the flexibility in representation.
  • This participant also points out that y = e^{t+c} can be rewritten as y = ae^t, where a = e^c, and discusses the context in which one form may be more useful than another.
  • Another participant raises a concern that different forms of the constant can lead to overlooking potential solutions, providing examples to illustrate this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of C as an arbitrary constant and the flexibility in its representation. However, there are differing views on how these representations might affect the identification of solutions, indicating an unresolved debate on the implications of different forms of the constant.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that certain forms of the constant may lead to gaining or losing potential solutions, highlighting the importance of context in mathematical representation.

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Please forgive the rather simple nature of my question. I am rather confused about it. I have just started a class on differential equations and I am confused on the proper use of the constant C after integrating. There are occasions in which I end up with something like
y = et + c. If this is the same as etec, then is ec essentially the same as c? Can anyone enlighten me as to the proper use of c in similar situations such as e6t + 6c, etc.?
 
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c is usually a variable you find so that your solution satisfies given initial conditions. Typically c is in front of the exponent. Ie c1 exp^2t.
 
Remember that c is an arbitrary constant. There are often different ways to write the "same" constant value.

As a simple example, if you integrate [itex]\int 2x\, dx[/itex], it doesn't really matter if you write the answer is [itex]x^2 + c[/itex] or [itex]x^2 + c + 1[/itex] or [itex]x^2 - c[/itex], or whatever. The expressions give different values for a particular value of c (for example c = 0) but the complete set of expressions for every possible value of c is the same in each case.

But in that example, there isn't any obvious reason to write anything apart from [itex]x^2 + c[/itex], so that is what you will find in a textbook as "the answer".

In your example, the same idea applies, but the alternative ways to write the answer look "more different" than the previous example.

If [itex]y = e^{t+c}[/itex] then you are right that [itex]y = e^t e^c[/itex]. You would normally let [itex]e^c = a[/itex] where [itex]a[/itex] is another constant, and write [itex]y = ae^t[/itex] rather than [itex]y = e^t e^c[/itex].

If this was part of a bigger problem, sometimes [itex]y = e^{t+c}[/itex] is easier to work with, and sometimes [itex]y = ae^t[/itex]. You have to get used to the fact that in math, there are often different ways of writing "the same thing".
 
Thank you so much. Great explanation. It answered my question.
 
Sometimes a particular form of the constant will cause one to gain or lose solutions.
if
y1=C exp(t)
y2=exp(t-a)
-exp(t) may of may or not be a solution y1 tends to make us think of it as one while y2 may make us forget about it (if working wiht real numbers).
if
y1=(x+B)/(-x+B)
we might forget to consider y=1 as a possible solution while some other form may remind us of that possiblity.
 

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