Classic schooling questions [bachelor's]

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The discussion centers on the challenges faced by a 22-year-old individual who has not attended undergraduate school due to parental restrictions on filling out the FAFSA. Despite extensive self-study in advanced subjects like general relativity and complex analysis, the consensus is clear: admission to graduate school in physics requires an accredited undergraduate degree. The advice given emphasizes the necessity of completing at least two years at a community college to build a strong academic foundation and demonstrate preparedness to admissions committees.

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This discussion is beneficial for non-traditional students, aspiring physicists, and anyone navigating the complexities of higher education admissions, particularly those with unique backgrounds or challenges in accessing traditional schooling pathways.

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this is something I've considered posting for quite some time, but it was never the right time. now it is. please forgive me if i sound obnoxious, or even arrogant, i really, *really* don't want to.

let's cut to the chase.
i am 22, and i have never been to undergrad, because my parent wouldn't fill out the FASFA. i can't fill it out or go to undergrad on my own until I'm 24, because that's when they let you do it alone. no ifs, ands, or buts, seemingly.

maybe i could have saved up for community college, but that would have been a slog, and even with that i was very aware it was basically impossible to get a full ride. i was a precocious child, autism, gifted schools, calculus in middle school, then my family situation completely imploded. what i assume is a somewhat classic tale. so needless to say, my high school grades weren't great, even if near-perfect SATs and subject tests. lots of absences. you get it.

so I've been away, for a long while. working various jobs, mostly IT or at libraries. living with my partner for two years now, a graduate student in ecology. and studying. a lot. a lot a lot.
like, seriously. all the standard undergrad curriculum. general relativity. topology. complex analysis. computational linguistics. mathematical biology. i go to journal clubs over phone calls with friends who are physics and astronomy PhDs students. sitting in on classes. i have notebooks on notebooks. I've considered starting a blog. I've made a college freshman fall in love with differential geometry. i have research interests.

I'm not bragging, I've just had the time to do it. That's it.

I have a sinking feeling if I have to go through the standard first two years or so I'll give up or die. I don't want to wait until I'm 24. I'm worried I'll never be able to go to grad school. I want to be there now, frankly. I could get reference letters. I doubt that'll fly.

I don't know what to do.
I hope this isn't too much of a bummer thread.

If anyone has any sort of advice... I'm ready to hear it. It's time.

Thank you.
 
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I do not follow well what you tried to say. Maybe you are at an age that if you could attend and afford Community College for two or three years, then when that much is done, you might be 24 years old and would be allowed to fill-in a FASFA form yourself.
 
Here's the blunt truth of it.

If you want to get into graduate school for physics, the road is through an undergraduate degree in physics. There really aren't any short cuts around this. It doesn't matter how much you've self-studied or who will give you glowing reference letters or what your SATs or GRE scores were. You need that undergraduate degree to qualify for admission.

So you need a plan for getting that.

If that means getting the first two years out of the way at a community college that you can afford, then that's what you have to do, and it's probably better to start on that now. You're going to turn 24 eventually. Would you rather be 24 with a couple of years of community college under your belt and finally able to enter the undergraduate program you want with only senior coursework to complete? Or do you want to wait and start from zero then?
 
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Perhaps you really do know your stuff, or maybe you're just fooling yourself. We don't know you, so there's no way for us to tell. The admissions committee has the same problem. You have to somehow convince a prospective school that you're adequately prepared to succeed in its program. Earning an undergrad degree in physics from an accredited school provides some objective evidence of your preparation.

With a non-traditional background like yours, you're asking a school to make an exception for you in how they assess prospective grad students. While you may be quite intelligent, you likely do not particularly stand out among the applicants. You need to ask yourself why the admissions committee should make an exception for you when they could just admit a regular applicant who's just as qualified as or more qualified than you are and who has demonstrated they can succeed academically.

I think you already know that the best way in is to earn the bachelor's, but you just don't want to do it.
 
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