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The discussion revolves around finding closed-form solutions to the wave equation with Gaussian initial conditions. Participants explore various mathematical approaches and techniques to derive solutions, particularly focusing on the implications for quantum mechanics and the use of Hermite functions as a basis for state space.

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  • One participant proposes a solution to the wave equation using Gaussian initial conditions and expresses interest in the implications for Hermite functions in quantum mechanics.
  • Another suggests rewriting the sine function in terms of exponentials to facilitate integration, although they express uncertainty about its effectiveness.
  • A different participant recommends completing the square for the quadratic exponent in the initial solution as a method to simplify the problem.
  • One participant describes a plane wave decomposition approach, leading to a convolution with a Bessel function, indicating a method for time-evolution of independent plane waves.
  • A participant shares a derived solution for the massless case of the wave equation, detailing the form of the solution and the role of error functions, while also providing visualizations of the results.
  • Corrections are made regarding the dimensionality of the solution, with participants acknowledging errors in previous posts and refining the expression for the solution.

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Participants express various approaches and corrections, indicating that there is no consensus on a single method or solution. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to derive a closed-form solution.

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Hi all,

I'm interested to find a solution to the wave equation corresponding to
Gaussian initial conditions
\psi(0,x) = e^{-x^2/2}
A solution which satisfies these initial conditions is (up to some constant factor)
\psi(t,x) = \int \frac{d^3k}{(2\pi)^3} e^{-k^2/2 + i(k \cdot x - \omega t)}
where \omega = |k|. If we use spherical coordinates ( so that k.x = |k| r cos \theta )
then the angular dependence can be integrated out ... I get
\psi(t,x) = \int_{0}^{\inf} \frac{dk}{(2\pi)^2} \frac{2k \sin(kr)}{r} e^{-k^2/2 - \omega t}
but can't get any further. Any ideas? Maybe this isn't the right direction to go anyway.

The reason I'm looking at this is because I'm interested to see the viability of
Hermite functions as a basis for state space in QM: the above function e^-x^2/2 is the
zeroth Hermite function. Hermite functions form a countable orthonormal basis, they
can be defined to have unit normalization, and all of their moments are finite. None
of these are true for the usual plane wave basis... so I feel the Hermite functions provide
a more concrete realisation of the Hilbert space of states. Of course, they won't be much
use unless I get them in closed form for t>0.

Thanks,
Dave
 
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I have an idea, but I'm not sure whether it will be helpful.. I mean, if you rewrite sin(kr) as (exp(ikr)-exp(-ikr))/2i, then you have something on the form k*exp(f(k)). Then maybe you can use integration by parts to integrate? Maybe it won't work...
 
The exponent of the initial solution is a quadratic equation. Complete the square, do a change of variables, done.
 
schieghoven said:
Hi all,

I'm interested to find a solution to the wave equation corresponding to
Gaussian initial conditions
\psi(0,x) = e^{-x^2/2}

Do a plane wave decomposition from the x to the p domain. Then presume positive
energy and thus :

\omega = \sqrt{k^2+m^2}

This gives you the time-evolution of the independent plane waves. The last step is
the 3d inverse Fourier from the (t,p) domain to the (t,x) domain. The result comes
down to a convolution between the Gaussian and a second order Bessel K function
with imaginary argument. (A Hankel function)


Regards, Hans.
 
Thanks for the three responses, they were a lot of help, and in the end helped me piece together an answer for the massless case... it's pretty epic.

The problem:
Massless propagation of free scalar field with Gaussian initial conditions
<br /> \Box^2 \psi(t,x) = 0<br />
<br /> \psi(0,x) = \frac{1}{ a^{3/2} \pi^{3/4} }\exp \left( -\frac{x^2}{2a^2} \right) <br />​
where x is shorthand for the three space dimensions (x,y,z). 'a' is a constant.

The solution is
<br /> \psi(t,x) = \frac{a^{1/2}}{ \pi^{3/4} 2r } \left( F(t+r) - F(t-r) \right) <br />​
where r = \sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2) and F is given by
<br /> F(s) = s \exp \left( -\frac{s^2}{2a^2} \right) \left( 1- i \text{Erfi} \frac{s}{\sqrt{2}a} \right) <br />​
The error functions arise because, as pointed out in the responses, the second integral in the original post is of the form k*exp(quadratic), and this can be done by substitution and it gives rise to an error function. Erfi is notation used by Mathematica; it's basically just Erf rotated by 90 degrees in the complex plane.

I've attached two plots which show respectively the real and imaginary parts of the solution \psi(t,r), plotted on the (t,r) plane. Gaussian initial conditions can be seen along the axis t=0. It's kind of nifty, the light-like propagation is clearly visible in each plot, as the packets propagate along the lightcone t=+/-r.

If there's any interest to see the details, I guess I can try write them up somehow.

Thanks again for the tips,

Dave
 

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Sorry, that should be
<br /> \psi(t,x) = \frac{1}{a^{3/2} \pi^{3/4} } \frac{1}{2r} \left( F(t+r) - F(t-r) \right) <br />​
... the answer in the previous post is out by a factor of a^2. For which I earn the 'wrong dimension' hat.
 
schieghoven said:
that should be
<br /> \psi(t,x) = \frac{1}{a^{3/2} \pi^{3/4} } \frac{1}{2r} \left( F(t+r) - F(t-r) \right) <br />​
.

At first glance that looks to be what it should be. With the two terms coming
from the sine used in the radial Fourier transform. Nice images BTW.Regards, Hans
 

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