MHB Combination/probability question (High School level)

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The discussion centers on solving a counting and probability problem involving combinations of girls and boys. The correct method involves calculating the combinations for "2 girls and 1 boy" and "3 girls and 0 boys" separately, then summing these results to avoid double counting. Participants emphasize the importance of treating each scenario distinctly to ensure accurate results. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in combinatorial reasoning, particularly in avoiding overcounting specific groups.

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Hi all. I'm doing a counting/probability problem here.
I can see how the correct answer for part b is arrived at by counting the number of combinations for "2 girls" then counting the number of combinations for "3 girls" , and adding these results.
But I've attached my first way of approaching it, which is wrong. Wondering if anyone can tell me why my approach doesn't give the correct answer. I know it's probably something obvious that I'm missing.
Thanks
 

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With your method groups with 3 girls get counted 3 times each rather than once each.
 
romsek said:
With your method groups with 3 girls get counted 3 times each rather than once each.
Thank you for replying. I can see that makes sense now.

So the best approach with these types of problems is to treat each situation separately? ie. find how many ways you can have 2 girls and 1 boy, then find how many ways you can have 3 girls and 0 boys, then add the 2 figures?

Mick
 
Micky1964 said:
Thank you for replying. I can see that makes sense now.

So the best approach with these types of problems is to treat each situation separately? ie. find how many ways you can have 2 girls and 1 boy, then find how many ways you can have 3 girls and 0 boys, then add the 2 figures?

Mick

It's a bit difficult to cite any approach as "best" given the variety of problems that exist but generally separating the cases helps ensure you won't multiply count specific situations.
 
I think it odd that choosing students "to represent the class in a debate" would be done at random!
 
Country Boy said:
I think it odd that choosing students "to represent the class in a debate" would be done at random!
You clearly never went to my High School.

-Dan
 
Yeah, I dropped out in the fourth grade!
 

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