Combining High and Low Pass Filters

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on isolating a desired signal frequency of 1 GHz from noise using high-pass and low-pass filters. The key takeaway is that a combination of both filters can effectively isolate the desired frequency by blocking unwanted frequencies outside the range of interest. The cutoff frequency formula, w = (RC)^-1, is critical for determining appropriate resistor (R) and capacitor (C) values to achieve the desired filtering effect. For effective isolation, component values must be chosen such that the noise is at least ±200 MHz away from the desired frequency.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of high-pass and low-pass filter (HPF and LPF) concepts
  • Familiarity with the cutoff frequency formula w = (RC)^-1
  • Knowledge of Bode plots for analyzing filter behavior
  • Basic circuit design principles involving resistors and capacitors
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the design and implementation of Bode plots for LPF and HPF circuits
  • Learn how to calculate attenuation for single pole filters
  • Explore component value selection for achieving specific cutoff frequencies
  • Investigate the effects of combining multiple filter types in a single circuit
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Electrical engineers, signal processing specialists, and students studying filter design who are looking to enhance their understanding of frequency isolation techniques in noisy environments.

waley

Homework Statement


Suppose we have a noisy signal (superposition of many frequencies), but
we are only concerned with a particular part of the signal within the noise at a frequency
f(desired) = 1 GHz. In a sentence or two, explain how you could isolate the desired part
of the signal by using low-pass and high-pass filters. Assuming the noise is far from the desired signal in frequency (≥ ±200 MHz from f(desired)), suggest component values that should achieve this effect.

Homework Equations


cutoff frequency: w = (RC)^-1

The Attempt at a Solution


If I use the high-pass filter, all lower frequencies will be blocked; if I use the low-pass, all higher frequencies will be blocked. If I use a combo of both in the same circuit with the same R,C values, then wouldn't all frequencies be blocked?
 
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waley said:

Homework Statement


Suppose we have a noisy signal (superposition of many frequencies), but
we are only concerned with a particular part of the signal within the noise at a frequency
f(desired) = 1 GHz. In a sentence or two, explain how you could isolate the desired part
of the signal by using low-pass and high-pass filters. Assuming the noise is far from the desired signal in frequency (≥ ±200 MHz from f(desired)), suggest component values that should achieve this effect.

Homework Equations


cutoff frequency: w = (RC)^-1

The Attempt at a Solution


If I use the high-pass filter, all lower frequencies will be blocked; if I use the low-pass, all higher frequencies will be blocked. If I use a combo of both in the same circuit with the same R,C values, then wouldn't all frequencies be blocked?
Are you familiar with the Bode plots of LPF and HPF circuits? What is the attenuation at that ω value you have listed for a single pole filter? What is the attenuation 200MHz away from that cutoff frequency?
 
berkeman said:
Are you familiar with the Bode plots of LPF and HPF circuits? What is the attenuation at that ω value you have listed for a single pole filter? What is the attenuation 200MHz away from that cutoff frequency?
I'm guessing that the plots look something like: they're constant at first but at a certain frequency the curve drops to zero eventually. I'm not sure how to calculate attenuation - all I can guess is that somehow I have to have two values of R and C to fulfill 1.0x10^9 Hz = (2*pi*R*C)^-?
 

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