Comet Death Dive Into Sun Seen in Detail for 1st Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the observation of a comet disintegrating in the sun's atmosphere, specifically focusing on the phenomenon of sun-diving comets, their frequency, and the implications of such events for our understanding of solar interactions and cometary contributions to the sun's composition.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at the commonality of sun-diving comets, noting that previous observations did not capture their disintegration.
  • One participant wonders about the cumulative mass of comets that the sun has collected over time and their potential contributions of elements like carbon and oxygen.
  • Another participant references a previous incident involving a comet approaching the sun, suggesting that similar events may occur with other stars as well.
  • A participant shares a video of Comet Lovejoy's trajectory towards the sun, highlighting its survival and the visual spectacle it created.
  • One participant describes the dramatic nature of Comet Lovejoy's dive, noting its loss of tail and subsequent recovery, expressing appreciation for the observational capabilities provided by NASA.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of sun-diving comets, with varying perspectives on their frequency, effects, and the significance of their contributions to the sun.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve references to specific comets and their classifications, such as the Kreutz family, but the implications of these classifications remain unresolved. The discussion also touches on observational limitations and the historical context of comet observations.

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Comet's Death Dive Into Sun Seen in Detail for 1st Time
http://www.space.com/14288-sungrazing-comet-death-dive-sun-observed.html
by Charles Q. Choi, SPACE.com Contributor
Date: 19 January 2012

A comet has been spotted disintegrating in the atmosphere of the sun for the first time.

Such sun-diving comets are common but none have been seen surviving entry into the sun's atmosphere until now. . . .
I was surprised to learn that sun-diving comets are common. I guess in the past, sun-diving comets simply disappeared, i.e., we knew they approached the sun, but did not reappear.

Now a single comet is an insignificant amount of mass compared to the sun, but I wonder how many comets the sun has collected over the eons, and how much of the carbon, oxygen in the sun has been contributed by comets.
 
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Cool. Maybe next time when they see a comets heading straight towards the sun, they can focus the cameras on the impact
 
Back in May 2011, another comet apparently got close to - or hit - the sun.

http://www.space.com/11663-comet-hits-sun-solar-explosion.html

These comets belong to the Kreutz family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreutz_Sungrazers

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111213165028.htm

On the origin of the Kreutz family of sun-grazing comets (paper from 1967)
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1967BAICz..18..198S


Apparently many graze the sun, but some hit it. Ostensibly, this happens with other stars.
 
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=124915541
Comet Lovejoy Dives Toward the Sun

NOTE: This video loops 3 times. An instrument on the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) adjusted its cameras in order to watch the trajectory of Comet Lovejoy. . . . . The movie from SDO was made the evening of Dec 15, 2011 and shows Comet Lovejoy moving in toward the sun.
 
Astronuc said:
Comet Lovejoy Dives Toward the Sun

The poor little thing, it lost its tail and wriggled excitedly as it plunged through the million K solar corona - but fearlessly, Lovejoy survived to grow a spectacular new tail on the other side of the sun. Whew!

What a spectacular show nature puts on for us when we have the instruments to observe it. I am grateful to NASA, and consider my tax well-spent in this case.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
 

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