Commutativity Equation Of Hamilton and Position Operators

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The discussion revolves around the commutation relations between Hamiltonian and position operators in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the expression \left[\hat{H},\hat{x}\right]=\frac{-i\hbar}{m} \hat{p_{x}}. Participants are exploring the implications of these relations and the underlying mathematical framework.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to derive the commutation relation between the Hamiltonian and position operators, questioning the form of the Hamiltonian and discussing the application of the Leibniz rule in their calculations. Some express uncertainty about the regularity of the equations presented.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the operators, with some participants confirming the correctness of certain steps. Guidance has been offered regarding the necessity of starting with the Hamiltonian operator to arrive at the desired result, although no consensus has been reached on the complete derivation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that they know the fundamental commutation relation \left[\hat{p}_x,\hat{x}\right]=-i\hbar, which is central to their discussions. The context suggests a focus on deriving results based on established quantum mechanical principles.

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How can we show [tex]\left[\hat{H},\hat{x}\right]=\frac{-i\hbar}{m} \hat{p_{x}}[/tex] ?
 
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is this regular ?

[tex]\left[\hat{p_{x}}^2,\hat{x}\right]=\left[\hat{p_{x}},\hat{x}\right]\hat{p_{x}}+\hat{p_{x}}\left[\hat{x},\hat{p_{x}}\right][/tex] ( from leibniz rule)
 
buraqenigma said:
How can we show [tex]\left[\hat{H},\hat{x}\right]=\frac{-i\hbar}{m} \hat{p_{x}}[/tex] ?

Well, do you know the form of the Hamiltonian?
 
[tex][p^2,x] = ppx - xpp = p[p,x]-pxp - [x,p]p + pxp[/tex]
 
buraqenigma said:
[tex]\left[\hat{p_{x}}^2,\hat{x}\right]=\left[\hat{p_{x}},\hat{x}\right]\hat{p_{x}}+\hat{p_{x}}\left[\hat{x},\hat{p_{x}}\right][/tex] ( from leibniz rule)

Yes, that is correct.
 
if we know [tex]\left[\hat{p}_x,\hat{x}\right]=-i\hbar[/tex] we can show this equation. Thanks my friends for your helps.
 
So how does the Hamiltonian look like ?
 
buraqenigma said:
if we know [tex]\left[\hat{p}_x,\hat{x}\right]=-i\hbar[/tex] we can show this equation. Thanks my friends for your helps.

Yes, but you will have to start with the Hamiltonian operator first,
[tex]\hat H = {\hat {p}^2 \over {2m}} + V(\vec r)}[/tex]
and arrive at your result.
 

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