Completeness of Legendre Polynomials

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The discussion revolves around the completeness of Legendre polynomials, particularly in relation to their role in spherical harmonics and the eigenvalues associated with the Legendre differential equation. Participants explore the conditions under which certain eigenvalues are accepted as valid solutions and the implications of excluding others.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why only eigenvalues of the form λ=n(n+1) are accepted in the context of spherical harmonics, particularly in the absence of boundary values.
  • Another participant states that for λ not equal to n(n+1), the solutions to the Legendre equation are infinite series rather than polynomials, suggesting a lack of utility for those solutions.
  • A participant acknowledges the pragmatic reasons for excluding non-integer solutions but seeks a proof that Legendre polynomials are the only regular solutions to the differential equation.
  • Another participant counters that Legendre polynomials are not the only regular solutions, referring to non-polynomial regular solutions known as "Legendre functions of the first kind."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the completeness of Legendre polynomials as solutions to the differential equation. While some acknowledge the pragmatic utility of these polynomials, others argue that non-polynomial solutions exist, indicating a lack of consensus on the exclusivity of Legendre polynomials.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the absence of a formal proof regarding the exclusivity of Legendre polynomials as regular solutions, as well as the implications of using non-integer eigenvalues.

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I've recently been working with Legendre polynomials, particularly in the context of Spherical Harmonics. For the moment, it's enough to consider the regular L. polynomials which solve the differential equation

[(1-x^2) P_n']'+\lambda P=0

However, I've run into a problem. Why in the definition of spherical harmonics are only \lambda of the form \lambda=n(n+1) for integer n, accepted as valid solutions to the problem? In particular, with no boundary value specified, what restricts the eigenvalues to the problem here?

Note that my question is about the eigenvalues. I'm aware that the singular Legendre polynomials of the second kind (Q_n) should be rejected, but what stops a Legendre polynomial of the first kind with a non n(n+1) eigenvalue from being a solution?

I've read excerpts from Sturm-Liouville theory in an effort to find a solution to this problem, but mostly these texts simply repeat the same theorems that the eigenvalues are real, the solutions orthogonal, etc. There seems to be no method in the theory for proving that the eigenvalues n(n+1) are the only eigenvalues.

So my question is this: Why are eigenvalues such as say \lambda=1 not permitted as solutions to the Legendre equation? Particularly in the absence of boundary values.
 
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If \lambda is not equal to n(n+1), the regular (non-singular) solution to the equation is an infinite series, not a polynomial.

The set of polynomials of degrees 0, 1, 2, ... are obviously linearly independent, and they also have nice orthogonality properties. So there is no particular reason to want to use solutions for other values of \lambda for anything. At least, Legendre didn't have any reason. If somebody else has found a use for them, I don't know about that.

I don't think there is anything more to this than simple pragmatism.
 
I understand the pragmatic and aesthetic reasons fro excluding these solutions, and I follow the problem which arises in the infinite series for non integer n.

But where is the proof that the legendre polynomials are the only regular soultions to the differential equation?
 
ObsessiveMathsFreak said:
But where is the proof that the legendre polynomials are the only regular soultions to the differential equation?

They aren't the only regular solutions. They are just the pragmatically useful ones.

The non-polynomial regular solutions are called "Legendre functions of the first kind". (The non-regular solutions are the second kind).

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LegendreDifferentialEquation.html
 

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