Confusing Students with Fractions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the confusion students experience with adding fractions, particularly in the context of test scores represented as fractions. Participants explore the implications of treating different fractions as if they can be directly summed, raising questions about teaching methods and student understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that adding 12/25 and 18/30 to get 30/55 is misleading, as these fractions represent different wholes (test scores).
  • Another participant emphasizes that fractions are part of a whole and illustrates this with a cake and pie analogy, arguing that students may misunderstand the concept of fractions.
  • A third participant notes that while the mediant of 12/25 and 18/30 is 30/55, this does not represent proper addition of the fractions.
  • One participant expresses concern about the potential misunderstanding or miscommunication between teachers and students regarding the addition of fractions, suggesting that proper teaching methods are crucial for student comprehension.
  • This participant also discusses the importance of explaining the division aspect of fractions and the necessity of using a common denominator for addition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that adding fractions representing different wholes is problematic, but there is no consensus on the best approach to teaching this concept or the extent of the misunderstanding among students.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in teaching methods and the potential for confusion when fractions are not properly contextualized. There are unresolved questions about the effectiveness of current teaching practices and the understanding of students.

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We all know that 12/25 + 18/30 is not 30/55 yet students are happily told that they got 12 out of 25 in their first maths test and 18 out of 30 in their second maths test giving a total of 30 out of 55

So in this case 12/25 and 18/30 is 30/55

So should we be surprised when students say 2/5 + 3/4 is 5/9 ?
 
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Err, 12/25 can't be added to 18/30 just like that :D
Fractions are part of a whole. The two tests are 2 different wholes.
I was taught this as a kid - they said "what would I get if I cut a cake and a pie in half and added the halves together?" I said, you would get a half of the pie and a half of the cake.

In your example, the two tests have different maximum points, so 1 point is worth more in 1 test than in the other - that's why you use fractions -> 12/25 < half, 18/30 > half. On average the tests have 54/100 correct results or 54%. I don't know man, the most obvious stuff in maths, is the most difficult to explain :/
 
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jing2178 said:
So in this case 12/25 and 18/30 is 30/55

The mediant of 12/25 and 18/30 is indeed 30/55. But that is not addition.
 
jing2178 said:
We all know that 12/25 + 18/30 is not 30/55 yet students are happily told that they got 12 out of 25 in their first maths test and 18 out of 30 in their second maths test giving a total of 30 out of 55

Well in my opinion, this indicates either a tremendous misunderstanding, or miscommunication between the teacher and the student. If the students were properly taught, they would understand that the two fractions (or ratios) could not be added in that manner. Even the most contemporary teachers introduce the 'method' of utilizing the LCD in order to add the fractions.

However, as a teacher, you'd have to explain that adding these two fractions is equivalent to adding for instance: 1/4 to 1/3. Both fractions are basically division equations. So you would start by explaining that (after going through the process of division), .25 =/= .33, in the same way .48=/=.60. Because of this, you cannot simply add the numerator across, as well as the denominator! So similar to your students' claim, 1 slice out of 2 slices of an orange plus 2 slices out of 8 slices of an orange equals 3 slices out of 10 slices of an orange is completely incorrect! You can even picture this pictorially.

Because a fraction is another way of explaining an equation of division, you cannot possibly add the two fractions provided the top in that way. The point that I'm making, is that it's the teachers' responsibility to point this crucial aspect out.
 

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