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The forum discussion centers on transposing formulae from Pearson's "Foundation Maths" 5th edition, specifically exercise 10.1 question 1)e). The original formula is y = ¹/₂x, and the correct transposition yields x = 2y. The confusion arises from the incorrect application of operations, where the user mistakenly believes x = ¹/₂y is valid. The discussion clarifies that to transpose equations, one must consistently apply arithmetic operations to both sides, such as multiplying or adding the same value.

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Hello I'm working through transposing formulae of pearsons Anthony Croft and Robert Davidson's foundation maths 5th edition and I'm stuck on exercise 10.1 question 1)e)
We're it states that I must transpose the formula to make x the subject.
The formula is y = ¹/₂x and the answer x = ¹/₂y
I don't understand how they got this answer. As I did the working as
E)y = 1/2x
× 2
(2)(y) = ⁽¹⁾/₍₂₎x × ⁽²⁾/₍₁₎
2y = x
I base this way of a working off another question which I got correct
D)y = (¹)/(₂)(x - 7)
+ 7
y + 7 = ¹/₂x
× 2
(2)(y + 7) = ⁽¹⁾/₍₂₎x × ⁽²⁾/₍₁₎
2y + 14 = x
x = 2y + 14
If I am missing some rule that I'm meant to implement or if there is a error in the textbook your advise would be greatly appreciated.
Yours sincerely Buggsy
 
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Buggsy GC said:
E)y = 1/2x
× 2
(2)(y) = ⁽¹⁾/₍₂₎x × ⁽²⁾/₍₁₎
2y = x
That is correct.
D)y = (¹)/(₂)(x - 7)
+ 7
y + 7 = ¹/₂x
That step is incorrect at the right side.

Try x=7 and see if you can find a value for y such that both the initial and the final formula are right.
Buggsy GC said:
The formula is y = ¹/₂x and the answer x = ¹/₂y
That does not make sense.
 
If ##y = \frac{1}{2x}## then ##x = \frac{1}{2y}## is correct.

Try ##x = 1## for example.
 
I didn't expect x and y to be in the denominator.
 
I know but look
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Pardon me Perok can you take a picture of your working and post it, for some reason your post shows up on my screen as a bunch of hashtags and letters.
Thank you
 
Buggsy GC said:
Pardon me Perok can you take a picture of your working and post it, for some reason your post shows up on my screen as a bunch of hashtags and letters.
Thank you
I'm sorry to tell you I did it in my head!
 
Hint: multiply by ##x## to start.
 
So it look like this https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/108916
Ok second question how did you know to start with x not to just repeat the same action I used to get rid of the 1/2x in question d)
We're the answer was x =2y + 14 were the original formula was y = ¹/₂x - 7
 
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Buggsy GC said:
So it look like this https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/108916
Ok second question how did you know to start with x not to just repeat the same action I used to get rid of the 1/2x in question d)
We're the answer was x =2y + 14 were the original formula was y = ¹/₂x - 7
That last equation is very different. That is

##y = \frac{x}{2} - 7##
 
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I'm sorry this taking a while but can tell me is there a rule I should remember or an order of operation when rearranging formulas as I' m getting different answers depending on how I start to balance the equation even if I balance both sides all the way through
 
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Question e) and d) 10.1
 
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Buggsy GC said:
I'm sorry this taking a while but can tell me is there a rule I should remember or an order of operation when rearranging formulas as I' m getting different answers depending on how I start to balance the equation even if I balance both sides all the way through

That simply means you are making a mistake. There are no rules except you can: a) add the same thing to both sides of the equation; or, b) multiply both sides of the equation by the same thing. That same thing can be a number, such as ##2## a parameter, such as ##a##, or a variable, such as ##x##.

For example:

##y = ax + b##

##y-b = ax## (added ##-b## to both sides, which is the same thing as subtracting ##b##)

##\frac{y-b}{a} = x## (multiplied both sides by ##\frac{1}{a}##, which is the same as dividing by ##a##)

Another example is:

##y = \frac{1}{x}##

##xy = 1## (muliplied both sides by ##x##)

##x = \frac{1}{y}## (divided both sides by ##y##)
 

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