Conjugate Homogeneity for Self-Adjoint Operators: Proof and Explanation

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The discussion centers around the properties of self-adjoint operators in the context of linear algebra, specifically focusing on the proof that every eigenvalue of a self-adjoint operator is real. Participants explore the implications of complex numbers in this proof and the definitions involved in self-adjointness.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the notation involving complex numbers, questioning the role of the conjugate in the context of eigenvalues of self-adjoint operators.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the proof regarding the relationship between and , suggesting that it should involve complex conjugation.
  • A later reply confirms the need for the conjugate in the expressions, reinforcing the earlier point about the nature of the inner product.
  • It is noted that is a positive real number, which is part of the definition of the inner product, leading to further implications for the eigenvalue λ.

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Participants appear to agree on the definition of the inner product and its properties, but there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the proof and the role of complex conjugates in the context of self-adjoint operators.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the proof and the notation used, particularly concerning the treatment of complex numbers and conjugates in the context of eigenvalues.

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(aT)∗ = \bar{a}T∗ for all a ∈ C and T ∈ L(V,W);
This doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't a supposed to be=x+iy and
\bar{a}=x-iy? Not a fan of complex numbers. And
this proof also confuses me.7.1 Proposition: Every eigenvalue of a self-adjoint operator is real.

Proof: Suppose T is a self-adjoint operator on V. Let λ be an
eigenvalue of T, and let v be a nonzero vector in V such that Tv = λv.
Then
λllvll2 = <λv,v>
= <Tv,v>
= <v,Tv>
= <v,λv>
= \bar{λ}llvll2 that 955 is lambda
so I am guessing that for <Tv, v> to=<v, Tv>, the eigenvalue
should not have a conjugate of the form x-iy but just a real number.
I mean that makes sense I guess. In other words, the matrix for T* should not be a conjugate
transpose since the matrix of T must=the matrix of T* for self adjointness.
 
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Hi evilpostingmong! :smile:

(it's \bar{\lambda} :wink:)
evilpostingmong said:
… = <Tv,v>
= <v,Tv>
= <v,λv>

Shouldn't that be

= <v,Tv>*
= <v,λv>*
= λ*<v,v>* ? :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi evilpostingmong! :smile:

(it's \bar{\lambda} :wink:)


Shouldn't that be

= <v,Tv>*
= <v,λv>*
= λ*<v,v>* ? :redface:


yes it should
 
But, of course, <v, v> is a positive real number (part of the definition of "inner product") so that is \lambda&lt;v,v&gt;= \lambda^*&lt;v,v&gt;^*= \lambda^*&lt;v,v&gt;.
 

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