Conjugation of Complex Functions in Partial Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around the conjugation of complex functions within the context of a system of partial differential equations (PDEs). Participants explore the implications of complex conjugation in their equations and seek solutions while grappling with notation and conceptual clarity.

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  • One participant presents a PDE and simplifies it, seeking a suitable form for a function to satisfy the Cauchy-Riemann equations.
  • Another participant questions the notation used for derivatives with respect to complex conjugates, suggesting a potential misunderstanding.
  • Some participants propose different interpretations of the conjugate function and its implications for solving the equations.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the well-posedness of the equations involving conjugate variables and suggests alternative approaches to the problem.
  • Another participant shares a potential solution for the holomorphic Killing vector in a Kähler manifold, indicating a relationship between the functions and their conjugates.
  • One participant clarifies their interpretation of the conjugation notation and confirms a solution to their original problem.

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Participants express varying levels of confusion regarding notation and the implications of conjugation in their equations. There is no consensus on the best approach to solving the PDEs, and multiple interpretations of the notation and concepts are present.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings of notation, the dependence on specific definitions of conjugation, and unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed solutions.

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I'm in truble with a partial differential equation. Actually it is a system of PDE but It would be useful to solve at least one of them.
The most easy one is this one

<br /> 2 \bar{\xi}\left(\bar{s},\bar{t},\bar{u}\right) - 2 \xi\left(s,t,u\right) + \left(s-\bar{s}\right)\left(\bar{\partial}_\bar{s} \bar{\xi} + \partial_s \xi \right) = 0<br />

This equation can be simplified to

<br /> 2 A^*\left(z^*\right) - 2 A\left(z\right) + \left(z-z^*\right)\left(\bar{\partial}_{z^*}A^*+\partial_{z}A\right)= 0<br />

I further developed my computation using A(z) = u(x,y) + i v(x,y) with u,v \in \mathbb{R}
finding (I used Cauchy-Riemann equations)
v(x,y) = y^2 f(x+y)
Here is where I get stucked since I cannot find a suitable form of "f(x+y)" in order to obtain "u" and satisfy Cauchy-Riemann equations...
Any ideas?
 
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L0r3n20 said:
I'm in truble with a partial differential equation. Actually it is a system of PDE but It would be useful to solve at least one of them.
The most easy one is this one

<br /> 2 \bar{\xi}\left(\bar{s},\bar{t},\bar{u}\right) - 2 \xi\left(s,t,u\right) + \left(s-\bar{s}\right)\left(\bar{\partial}_\bar{s} \bar{\xi} + \partial_s \xi \right) = 0<br />

This equation can be simplified to

<br /> 2 A^*\left(z^*\right) - 2 A\left(z\right) + \left(z-z^*\right)\left(\bar{\partial}_{z^*}A^*+\partial_{z}A\right)= 0<br />

Any ideas?

Consider the expression:

<br /> \bar{\partial}_{z^*}A^*

I assume that means:

\overline{\frac{\partial \bar{f}}{\partial\bar{s}}}

but we know that:

\frac{\partial \overline{f}}{\partial \overline{s}}=\overline{\frac{\partial f}{\partial s}}

which means you have:

2\overline{A}(\overline{z})-2A(z)+2(z-\overline{z})\frac{\partial A}{\partial z}=0
 
I'm afraid I use the wrong notation or maybe I didn't understand at all! =)
with
\bar{\partial}_{\bar{s}} \xi^*
I mean the derivate of xi* wrt the complex conjugate of s (i.e. \bar{s}). I use the bar over the partial derivative to point out that the derivate is made over \bar{s} and not s. Sorry about this misleading notation! :)
 
L0r3n20 said:
I'm afraid I use the wrong notation or maybe I didn't understand at all! =)
with
\bar{\partial}_{\bar{s}} \xi^*
I mean the derivate of xi* wrt the complex conjugate of s (i.e. \bar{s}). I use the bar over the partial derivative to point out that the derivate is made over \bar{s} and not s. Sorry about this misleading notation! :)

Ok, that's confussing. Tell you what, how about we just do it my way:

2\overline{A}(\overline{z})-2A(z)+2(z-\overline{z})\frac{d A}{d z}=0

Can we even solve that one? The conjugate variables really hit me with a surprise though and I'm not use to working with DEs like that. I mean what do you do with something like that? Is it even well-posed? Suppose nobody could help us and we had to do something with it, a thesis or something? What do we do? Suppose we could first look at:

\frac{dy}{dz}+\overline{y}(\overline{z})=0

Can we even do that one? Does it even make sense? Looks like another whole-semester type problem to me.
 
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I have to admit I'm confused too...
My problem, I mean in its original formulation, require to find the holomorphic Killing vector of a given Kahler manifold. In order to do that I found I have to solve that equation (and many more to be honest...).
Now I wondering if by \bar{A}(\bar{z})
they actually mean \left(A(z)\right)^*
In that case I can set A = u(x,y)+iv(x,y) \qquad \bar{A} = u(x,y)-iv(x,y)
For which I found this solution
<br /> u(x,y) = \frac{1}{2} C_1 \left(x^2-y^2\right)+C_2 x + C_3 \qquad <br /> v(x,y) = C_1 xy + C_2 y<br />
Which is a bit tempting since it satisfy also Cauchy Riemann equations..
 
L0r3n20 said:
Now I wondering if by \bar{A}(\bar{z})
they actually mean \left(A(z)\right)^*

I think that means the conjugate of A at the conjugate of z. So if:

A(z)=iz

A(\overline{z})=i\overline{z}

\overline{A(\overline{z})}=-iz

Not sure though ok?
 
Bulletin from the front. :)

As I supposed they intended just the conjugation of the entire function not of both function and variables... So I solved, thank you anyway!
 

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