Connection to Nature: The Impact of Rubber Soles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the concept of human connection to nature, particularly in relation to the use of rubber-soled shoes. Participants contemplate whether wearing such shoes affects our physical and metaphorical connection to the earth, drawing on historical perspectives and personal experiences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that rubber soles, being non-conductive, may sever a physical connection to the earth, potentially impacting our connection to nature.
  • Others suggest that the loss of connection to nature extends beyond footwear, citing modern food production and societal changes as factors that diminish our relationship with the natural world.
  • A participant shares personal experiences of walking barefoot and feeling a deeper connection to nature, contrasting this with the experience of wearing shoes.
  • One participant challenges the original argument, asserting that the concepts of connection to nature and electrical conductivity are unrelated, and suggests that industrialization is a more significant factor in losing this connection.
  • Several posts introduce humor and light-hearted commentary, shifting the focus from the main topic to personal anecdotes and playful exchanges about cleanliness and preferences in social situations.
  • A later reply raises a philosophical question about the impact of living in cubed houses on the human psyche, suggesting a connection to the broader theme of human environments versus natural forms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the impact of rubber soles on our connection to nature. Some agree on the importance of personal experiences, while others contest the validity of the original premise, leading to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various aspects of modern life that may contribute to a perceived disconnect from nature, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of these factors.

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While sitting contemplating life today, I had a thought. Naturally were connected to the earth...The civilizations throughout history had a much deeper profound connection to it as well. The only difference besides technological advances is we wear shoes with rubber soles...Rubber is not conductive, so is it possible we lose our connection to nature for this fact?
 
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bykerboy011 said:
While sitting contemplating life today, I had a thought. Naturally were connected to the earth...The civilizations throughout history had a much deeper profound connection to it as well. The only difference besides technological advances is we wear shoes with rubber soles...Rubber is not conductive, so is it possible we lose our connection to nature for this fact?


You could perform an experiment. Walk about barefoot and see what happens. I do this and quite enjoy it, but I live on a weed-free tropical island.
 
One way that we can lose our connection with nature (reality) is through food.

Most people don't know what its like to have to raise, slaughter, and prepare their own food (particularly the meat products, but also other products like rice and grains).

Most people are used to food coming out of a supermarket shelf, just like money comes out of a concrete wall (ATM).

I've worked in an abattoir on and off for a few years and although you get used to it, it can change how you look at the food you eat (especially how its prepared).

This idea extends to all kinds of things including paper, oil and gas, computer parts, basically everything where you get a finished product without all the context and background.

Our society has for the most part, has lost a lot of the connections that used to be present.
 
bykerboy011 said:
While sitting contemplating life today, I had a thought. Naturally were connected to the earth...The civilizations throughout history had a much deeper profound connection to it as well. The only difference besides technological advances is we wear shoes with rubber soles...Rubber is not conductive, so is it possible we lose our connection to nature for this fact?

Be careful walking barefoot. Your connection with the Earth might be by way of some nasty parasitic worms.

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/sth/
 
bykerboy011 said:
Naturally were connected to the earth...The civilizations throughout history had a much deeper profound connection to it as well. The only difference besides technological advances is we wear shoes with rubber soles...Rubber is not conductive, so is it possible we lose our connection to nature for this fact?
The only reason this argument seemingly makes sense (it doesn't) is because you are using a logical fallacy known as equivocation. Your first mention of a connection to Earth is in the sense that ancient (or primitive) civilizations lived closer to nature—they hunted and gathered, and lived by the mercy of the changing seasons. If we take the rest of the animal kingdom as a reference, I agree that this way of life—as opposed to the modern fat man who does his Walmart shopping in a wheelchair even though he's not actually paralyzed—seems to have a closer connection to nature.

The second mention of a connection to Earth is in terms of an electrical connection which, as you rightly point out, is broken with soles made from rubber.

Your main problem is that the two concepts are completely unrelated, and that there's absolutely no reason to believe that being electrically isolated from Earth has anything to do with how "close" you are to nature. The obvious alternative to this drivel is that we "lost" our connection to nature because of the industrial revolution and Man's desire for progress and prosperity.
 
ImaLooser said:
You could perform an experiment. Walk about barefoot and see what happens. I do this and quite enjoy it, but I live on a weed-free tropical island.

I quite often walk around bare foot, the feeling of the dirt or grass on my feet is unique. At night i walk outside barefoot and look a the stars and for some reason in that moment i feel infinitely copnnected to everything. Something i don't feel while wearing shoes...
 
I think Astronuc could give valuable advise here, ore else Zoobyshoe.
 
Connect yourself to nature however you want, but you'll not be allowed to enter my flat with your muddy feet.
 
bykerboy011 said:
At night i walk outside barefoot and look a the stars and for some reason in that moment i feel infinitely copnnected to everything.
By your logic, the Earth (and you) would be completely disconnected from everything else--vacuum is an isolator just like rubber.
 
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arildno said:
Connect yourself to nature however you want, but you'll not be allowed to enter my flat with your muddy feet.

What if she's an atractive girl?
 
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Andre said:
I think Astronuc could give valuable advise here, ore else Zoobyshoe.
Thanks, Andre, but I like what gnurf said. People need to watch those tricky, quiet sidesteps from one meaning to another.
 
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x2791258 said:
What if she's an atractive girl?
Doesn't matter if she's Kate Upton. Muddy feet = leave my house before I force you to listen to 24 hours of Nicki Minaj.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
Doesn't matter if she's Kate Upton. Muddy feet = leave my house before I force you to listen to 24 hours of Nicki Minaj.

What if it is Nicki Minaj??
 
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micromass said:
What is it is Nicki Minaj??
What? O.O
 
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Well, now that youve "sidestepped" my wonder to ignorance... maybe you can answer my next "tricky" question...
Since our natural "home" (the earth) is a sphere, why is it we live in cubed houses? What does that do to the human psyche? I understand that vaulted ceilings are designed that way to make it feel like there's more space in the room. So what is it that white walled boxed rooms do to our mind?
 
  • #16
I'll take the white walled boxed room over a life of living out in the open constantly worrying if today is it going to be fiendishly cold or rainy. So, i'll say it gives us a peace of mind! :D
 
  • #17
Why not build a hippy dome shaped house?
 
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x2791258 said:
What if she's an atractive girl?

Only if her name was Keanu Reeves.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
Doesn't matter if she's Kate Upton. Muddy feet = leave my house before I force you to listen to 24 hours of Nicki Minaj.

micromass said:
What if it is Nicki Minaj??

Now that's what I'm talking about. Nice to see you guys.
 
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Ok, the Op's misunderstanding has been cleared up.
 

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