Constant and a variable in a squareroot needs integrating

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the integration of an expression containing a constant and a variable under a square root, specifically in the context of applying the trapezoidal rule for numerical integration. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the integration process and seeks clarification on how to handle the square root term.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches to integrating the expression, including a substitution method suggested by one participant. The original poster describes their attempt at multiplying terms but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their results. Another participant emphasizes the importance of completing a table of values before applying the trapezoidal rule.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and clarifying the steps required to tackle the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the substitution method and the necessity of completing preliminary calculations before integration.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific values that need to be filled in a table, which are crucial for applying the trapezoidal rule. The problem is framed within a homework context, indicating that certain analytical methods may not be required for the task at hand.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


In the question shown the equation is required to be integrated to apply the trapezium rule. However the x(20-x)^1/2 is confusing me somewhat.


The Attempt at a Solution



When I attempt the question the only way I can think of doing it is be multiplying the 'x' onto the '(20-x)^1/2'
But the resultant I get is
(4.47x - x^3/2)

The get 4.47/2x^2 - 2/5x^5/2

Can anyone point me to a worked example of how to deal with a constant and a variable in a squareroot?

My solutions is not giving me the right answers...
 
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From what I can tell, you'd be greatly helped by the substitution u=20-x, du=-dx. Then rewrite x as 20-u to get -(20 - u) u1/2 du.
 
If you read the problem statement carefully, you are instructed first to fill out the missing depth values in the table. Did you do that?

Once the table is complete, then you are to calculate the cross sectional area of the river channel by using the trapezoidal rule for numerical integration. Do you understand what the trapezoidal rule is and how it is applied?

Once you have calculated the cross sectional area, you are given a current velocity for the water flowing in the channel and asked to estimate the flow rate of the water.

The problem does not ask you to integrate the depth function analytically to find the cross sectional area of the channel. Instead, you are supposed to calculate area numerically using the trapezoidal rule.
 
SteamKing said:
Do you understand what the trapezoidal rule is and how it is applied?

I did not but have now found out and found the missing values
1.6 3.2 and applied the trapezoid formula and gotten 43.86

Many thanks
 

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