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Continental pilot reports missile or rocket over Texas

  1. Jun 7, 2009 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6453529.html
     
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  3. Jun 7, 2009 #2
    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    Prolly one of those amateur rocketeers didn't get proper permission or the proper alerts out.
     
  4. Jun 7, 2009 #3
    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    I'm thinking the same thing Zooby. I know of a few people here who don't get clearance, yet they still launch. They can get real jail time for that.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2009 #4
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    Yikes! And they certainly would in this case since it came so close. Have to imagine someone's shaking in their shoes.
     
  6. Jun 7, 2009 #5

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    Someone trying for the N-prize perhaps.

    An altitude of >13,000 ft is not your everyday amateur. Typical model rockets go a few thousand feet - if that.

    Now the pilot said that the plane passed ~100 ft below the rocket (according to an update). I wonder how he figured that. That's awfully close.
     
  7. Jun 7, 2009 #6
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    So, it would have to be a really advanced amateur? That makes me wonder if someone didn't get their hands on some military rockets of some sort.

    Other way around, apparently:
    That's ambiguous. The original article is more clear:
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6455016.html


    Turns out this has happened there before:
     
  8. Jun 7, 2009 #7

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    There obviously aren't as many as the "typical" model rockets we all launched in junior high, but there are a lot of them and the rockets are bigger than shoulder-fired SAMs. You need an FAA waiver for them.
     
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  9. Jun 7, 2009 #8
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    One of the blogs on SB is a photoblog featuring high-powered amateur rockets,

    http://scienceblogs.com/photosynthesis/

    It's the one which had the ant photographer last month.

    /sort of relevant
     
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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    After toying with the smaller rocket engines a lot of fans move on to high-powered rocket kits. These go up to O -class motors, which are capable of reaching an altitude of up to 40,000 feet at least, as evidenced here

    http://www.jrockdale.com/O.htm [Broken]


    http://www.jrockdale.com/tripoli_altitude_records.htm#navpoint [Broken]

    Actually, it only takes an I-class motor to reach 13,000 feet..which is on the low-end. I would guess that this flight path is nearby to an amateur testing ground site
     
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  12. Jun 7, 2009 #11
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    Sounds to me like they need to look for an amateur in the area with a birthday in May since this is two Mays in a row.
     
  13. Jun 7, 2009 #12

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    Jeez, one of those has a screen cap from a heads-up display showing an altitude of 31,000m!
     
  14. Jun 8, 2009 #13

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    I live pretty close to where the event occurred (10-15 miles or less depending on launch site). Considering the people in the area, it's most likely that it's an amateur in the area who either doesn't know any better or just doesn't care. Living in that area means you are in close proximity to Houston, but out where you can pretty much do whatever you want. The amount of air traffic coming out of IAH (where Continental flies out of) is very large, so again, my first thought would be coincidence.

    I was working all last week and then busy in the yard all weekend so I hadn't heard about the prior incident. I guess we'll see what happens. Unless it was launched from one of the smaller towns, it's likely that evidence won't be found and people won't talk.
     
  15. Jun 8, 2009 #14
    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    Are you saying they have amateur rockets that can go that high?
     
  16. Jun 8, 2009 #15

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    Yes - and higher!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_rocketry#Notable_Events

    BTW - High Power Rockets = H-class and higher motors
    http://www.nar.org/hpcert/NARhprintro.html [Broken]
     
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  17. Jun 9, 2009 #16
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    All ya need is an FAA waiver ?
    :rolleyes:
    Are these are the same people that, for my safety, won't let me carry a full tube of toothpaste in my carry-on?
     
  18. Jun 9, 2009 #17

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    Yep, that same tube of toothpaste that they'll let sit in a barrel next to the security checkpoints where there are long lines of people. If it was an explosive, it would harm fewer people if it went off on a plane than in that crowded security area.
     
  19. Jun 9, 2009 #18

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    That's DHS - a different group of people. They are worried about people concealing explosives or nerve gas in personal items.
     
  20. Jun 9, 2009 #19
    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    The DHS.
    Are they the same ones that master minded the no-fly list?

    So the FAA controls what, and who, can shoot/launch 'up'.
    The DHS controls what possessions you can have when you're 'blown up'.

    I don't feel safer.
     
  21. Jun 9, 2009 #20

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    Re: Continental pilot reports "missile or rocket" over Texas

    FAA regulates the airspace, commercial aviation and private aviation.

    The DHS handles the security of the people/customers using commercial aviation. They also control the borders - in theory.
     
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