Continuous function from (0,1) onto [0,1]?

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The discussion revolves around the existence of continuous functions from the interval (0,1) onto the interval [0,1]. Participants explore various properties of continuous functions, compactness, injectivity, and the implications of these properties in the context of topology.

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  • Some participants assert that there cannot be a continuous function from [0,1] onto (0,1) due to the property that the image of a compact set under a continuous function must also be compact.
  • One participant proposes a specific continuous surjection from (0,1) to [0,1] and discusses the nature of proper maps, noting that not all continuous maps have the property that the inverse image of a compact set is compact.
  • Another participant mentions a function that maps (0,1) onto [0,1] but points out that it is not injective, raising the question of whether an injective continuous function can exist between these intervals.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of injectivity and continuity, with one participant arguing that if a function is injective and continuous from an interval of R into R, it must be monotonic.
  • Another participant introduces a theorem regarding continuous bijections between compact and Hausdorff spaces, arguing that (0,1) and [0,1] are not homeomorphic due to differences in compactness and connectedness.

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Participants express differing views on the existence of continuous functions from (0,1) onto [0,1], with some arguing against it based on compactness and others providing examples that challenge this notion. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants reference various properties of compactness, injectivity, and continuity without reaching a consensus on the implications of these properties for the existence of the desired continuous function.

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I know that there does not exist a continuos function from [0,1] onto (0,1) because the image of a compact set for a continuous function f must be compact, but isn't it also the case that the inverse image of a compact set must be compact? and a set in R is compact iff its closed and bounded right?
 
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First consider the continuous surjection f:(0,1) \rightarrow [0,1] defined as follows:
<br /> f(x) = \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{lcl}<br /> 0 &amp; : &amp; x \in \left(0,\frac{1}{4}\right)\\[0.3em]<br /> 2x-\frac{1}{2} &amp; : &amp; x \in \left[\frac{1}{4},\frac{3}{4}\right]\\[0.3em]<br /> 1 &amp; : &amp; x \in \left(\frac{3}{4},1\right)<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.<br />
Now to answer your other questions ...

dumbQuestion said:
but isn't it also the case that the inverse image of a compact set must be compact?

Not all continuous maps satisfy this property. Those that do are called 'proper'.

and a set in R is compact iff its closed and bounded right?

Assuming that you give \mathbb{R} its usual topology and assuming you mean bounded with respect to the Euclidean metric, then yes.
 
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dumbQuestion said:
I know that there does not exist a continuos function from [0,1] onto (0,1) because the image of a compact set for a continuous function f must be compact, but isn't it also the case that the inverse image of a compact set must be compact? and a set in R is compact iff its closed and bounded right?

map any set with any topology to a point. This map is continuous and its image is compact.
 
(1/2) (sin(2pi x)+1) maps (0,1) onto [0,1].

Clearly the problem is that this function is not injective. Same problem with the example by jgens.

Does there exist an injective continuous function mapping (0,1) onto [0,1]? Assume there is, and suppose f(a)=0 and f(b)=1. WLOG assume b>a and let e>0 be small enough so that b+e<1. Since 1 is the max value of f, f(b+e) is strictly between 0 and 1. By the IVT, there exists c between a and b such that f(c)=f(b+e). So f can't be injective after all.

More generally if f is injective and continuous from an interval of R into R, then it must be monotonic and its inverse must be continuous as well.
 
You can also use a result that a continuous bijection f: X--->Y , between X compact

and Y Hausdorff , is a homeomorphism. And (0,1) and [0,1] are not homeomorphic

for many reasons: [0,1] is compact and (0,1) is not, or (0,1) is 1-connected and

[0,1] is not -- e.g., delete the endpoints of [0,1], and the space remains connected

( I think k-connectedness is also called the Euler number). This also shows there are

no continuous bijections between (0,1) and [0,1) (because [0,1) is not 1-connected;

remove 0, and it remains connected.)
 

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