Continuous linear transformation

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The discussion centers on proving the continuity of a linear transformation T from R^m to R^n. Participants explore the relationship between the transformation's boundedness and continuity, with one contributor demonstrating that |T(x)| can be bounded by a constant C times |x|. They discuss the Lipschitz condition, establishing that if T is Lipschitz continuous at zero, it extends to all points. The conversation highlights the importance of using the definition of continuity and the relationship between norms in linear transformations. Ultimately, the proof hinges on showing that |T(x) - T(y)| can be made arbitrarily small by controlling |x - y|.
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T is a linear transformation from R^m->R^n, prove that T is continuous.

I have proved that there's always a positive real number C that |T(x)|<=C|x|. How shall I proceed then?
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May I ask how you have shown that?
 
x is an element of R^m
|T(x)|=|sum_i(xi*T(ei))|<=sum_i{xi(|T(ei)|)}
let A=max{|T(e1)|,|T(e2)|...|T(em)|)
then |T(x)|<=A*sum_i(xi)<A/sqrt(m)*sqrt(sum_i(xi^2))=A/sqrt(m)*|x| (AM<RMS)

sorry, i don't know how to use latex here:frown:
 
1) You forgot an absolute value sign around xi in line 2:

|T(x)|=|sum_i(xi*T(ei))|<=sum_i{|xi|(|T(ei)|)}

2) How did you get

sum_i|xi|<[1/sqrt(m)]*sqrt(sum_i(xi^2)) ?

Surely this is not true. Take for instance the case when all but one of the x_i are non-vanishing. The inequality becomes

|xi|<[1/sqrt(m)]*|xi| <==> sqrt(m)<1You had good ideas in your attempt but I suggest working directly with the definition of continuity. Given e>0 and x0 , try to find a d>0 such that |x-x0|<d ==> |T(x)-T(x0)|<e.
 
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Well, can you show that it is Lipschitz?
 
quasar987 said:
1) You forgot an absolute value sign around xi in line 2:

|T(x)|=|sum_i(xi*T(ei))|<=sum_i{|xi|(|T(ei)|)}

2) How did you get

sum_i|xi|<[1/sqrt(m)]*sqrt(sum_i(xi^2)) ?

Surely this is not true. Take for instance the case when all but one of the x_i are non-vanishing. The inequality becomes

|xi|<[1/sqrt(m)]*|xi| <==> sqrt(m)<1


You had good ideas in your attempt but I suggest working directly with the definition of continuity. Given e>0 and x0 , try to find a d>0 such that |x-x0|<d ==> |T(x)-T(x0)|<e.
1.Thanks for pointing that out, it should be the absolute value.:smile:
2.sorry i made a mistake there, it should be
sum_i|xi|<sqrt(m)*sqrt(sum_i(xi^2)) by AM<RMS
 
Here is the standard way of doing it:

For any linear transformation we define the norm of it as ||T||=\sup_{|x|&lt;1}|T(x)|. Your arguments show that this norm always exists for any linear map.

Then we have |T(x-y)|\le||T|||x-y|. Therefore T is Lipschitz, hence uniformly continuous. If you don't know anything about Lipschitz and uniform continuity you can just let |x-y|&lt;\epsilon/||T|| and we have our desired result.
 
Andy_ToK said:
1.Thanks for pointing that out, it should be the absolute value.:smile:
2.sorry i made a mistake there, it should be
sum_i|xi|<sqrt(m)*sqrt(sum_i(xi^2)) by AM<RMS

Oh, ok. I did not know this inequality, but it is true as long as you change that < for a <=, because obviously for m=1, we have an equality. What does AM and RMS stand for?

What you've proven in showing |T(x)|<=C|x| is that T is Lipschitz continuous at 0. Usually, we say that a function f is Lipschitz at x0 if there exists numbers c and M such that |x-x0|<c ==> |f(x)-f(x0)| \leq M|x-x0|. A function that is Lipschitz is necessarily continuous because given e>0, choose d=min{c,e/M}.

So, can you extend your result and show that T is Lipschitz everywhere?
 
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ZioX said:
Then we have |T(x-y)|\leq ||T|||x-y|.

Shouldn't there be a sqrt{m} also on the RHS as in Andy's AM<RMS?
 
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quasar987 said:
Oh, ok. I did not know this inequality, but it is true as long as you change that < for a <=, because obviously for m=1, we have an equality. What does AM and RMS stand for?
oops, it should be <=, thanks.
AM=arithmetic mean
RMS=root mean square AM<=RMS (the equality holds when |x1|=|x2|...=|xm|)
 
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Thanks quasar987 and ZioX
I forgot to use T(x)-T(y)=T(x-y) for the linear transformation...
let d=e/C then, |x-y|<d --> |T(x)-T(y)|=|T(x-y)<cd=e
 
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quasar987 said:
Shouldn't there be a sqrt{m} also on the RHS as in Andy's AM<RMS?

I'll explain the logic a bit.

Define ||T||=\sup_{|x|&lt;1}|T(x)|.

Now the previous argument shows that there exists a C such that |T(x)| \le C|x|.

Now, if we restrict |x| &lt; 1 we get |T(x)| \le C|x| &lt; C so that |T(x)| has an upper bound, hence a supremum.

Now, for continuity, it just becomes a matter of verifying that 0 \le |T(x)-T(y)|=|T(x-y)|&lt;\epsilon whenever 0 \le |x-y|&lt; \min\{\epsilon / ||T||,1\}.
 

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