Convert AgCl to AgNO3 - Ideas Inside

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of silver chloride (AgCl) back to silver nitrate (AgNO3) following a titration experiment. Participants explore various chemical reactions and methods to achieve this conversion, including the use of nitric acid, ammonia, and other reagents. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical laboratory approaches.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using copper nitrate (CuNO3) to remove chloride ions from AgCl, proposing a reaction that involves forming a precipitate with nitric acid to yield AgNO3.
  • Another participant proposes the reaction of AgCl with nitric acid (HNO3) to directly produce AgNO3 and hydrochloric acid (HCl), expressing confidence in this approach.
  • A third participant raises concerns about the solubility of silver chloride in water and acids, indicating a need to form a precipitate before adding nitrate.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of dissolving AgCl by complexing it, referencing a known problem related to reclaiming silver from photographic fixer.
  • Another idea presented involves reacting AgCl with ammonium hydroxide (NH4OH) to form silver hydroxide (AgOH), which could then be converted to AgNO3 through further reactions.
  • A participant suggests testing the ammonia solution with AgCl or calculating equilibrium using solubility product values, expressing skepticism about the success of either method.
  • A later reply notes that ammonia did not work in the lab, but mixing NaOH with water and AgCl produced a precipitate, which was then filtered before adding nitric acid to yield AgNO3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various methods to convert AgCl to AgNO3. There is no consensus on a single successful approach, and several competing ideas remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the solubility of silver chloride and the formation of precipitates, indicating potential limitations in the proposed methods. The discussion includes references to specific chemical reactions and conditions that may affect outcomes.

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Homework Statement


In a titration lab we had water in it with Na2Cr04 and used AgNO3 to precipitate the Cl ions in the water and thus determine the amount of chlorine in the water. We were then left with AgCl in the beaker and poured it into a waste beaker. Now our teacher wants us to figure out how to convert the AgCl back to AgNO3. I have some ideas but not sure if they will work.

Homework Equations


AgCl + ? -> AgNO3
ksp of agcl= 1.8E-10, ksp of hcl = 1.1E-11, ksp cucl= 1.6E-7

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured that cuno3 could potentially remove the cl by the copper bonding with it. Then if a preciptiate forms and HNO3 and then have the NO3 bond with ag to get agno3. Again not too sure and any help much appreciated.
 
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Erm Nitric acid?

AgCl + HNO3 ----> AgNO3 + HCl ?

Looks bout right :)
 
I thought so too, but apparently silver chloride is insoluble in water and acids. I think I have to to something like form a precipitate with the chloride and then filter out and then add N03, I am more confused about how to form the precipitate.
 
You can dissolve AgCl complexing it.

Note that it is a known problem, for ideas google for reclaiming silver from the spent photographic fixer.
 
What about this:
AgCl + NH4Oh = AgOH + NH4Cl
AgOH = Ag2O
Ag2O is a precipitate, so filter out
Then: Ag20 + HNO3 = AgNO3 + H2O
 
You can either test the idea adding ammonia solution to the AgCl precipitate, or calculate the equilibrium using known values of solubility product.

IMHO neither approach is going to yield any success.
 
In case anyone wanted to know the ammonia didn't work in the lab but when NaOH + H20 was mixed with AgCl(s) a precipitate formed. Then used vacuum filtration to separate precipitate then added the nitric acid which produced AgNO3.
 

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