Converting Between MKS and CGS Unit Systems: Tips and Tricks?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of converting between MKS (Meter-Kilogram-Second) and CGS (Centimeter-Gram-Second) unit systems. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on how to effectively navigate these conversions, particularly in the context of reading and applying formulas from different unit systems.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in transitioning from MKS to CGS and seeks advice on how to manage this conversion.
  • Another participant notes that distances in CGS are 100 times larger and masses are 1000 times larger than in MKS, and mentions a common issue with electric field equations missing a factor of 2π.
  • Some participants suggest working in the unit system that matches the desired output, arguing it simplifies the process.
  • One participant recounts an experience where a missing factor of 2π led to different results in nominally identical experiments due to confusion between unit systems.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of dimensional analysis and understanding the underlying concepts rather than getting bogged down in unit conversions.
  • There is mention of the potential confusion arising from different equations in MKS and CGS, particularly regarding constants like ε₀ and μ₀.
  • Some participants express a preference for converting all information to SI units for calculations and then converting back to CGS, highlighting that this approach is a matter of personal preference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that converting between MKS and CGS can be challenging and that different approaches exist. However, there is no consensus on the best method to handle these conversions, as preferences vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the equations may differ between the two unit systems, which can complicate the conversion process. There are also references to specific factors that may be omitted or altered when switching between systems, which can lead to errors.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or professionals who frequently work with different unit systems in physics, engineering, or related fields, particularly those transitioning between MKS and CGS units.

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"cgs" unit systems

i'm used to mks unit systems, but i have to read a book with cgs recently.

it's difficult for me to transform it between them.

can anyguys give me some advises to deal with it !

thanks for responds!
 
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Distances are a 100x bigger than they should be, masses are 1000x
The electric field equations are generally missing a 2pi
At least seconds are the same!

CGS is still very common in astronomy
 
yes,that's right.
but i want know how should i deal with it.
should i transform the CGS formulas to MKS or directly deduce in CGS,or someother manner.
 
The appendix in Jackson gives a good review of various units. I've never found shifting between units to be a big deal myself.
 
enricfemi said:
yes,that's right.
but i want know how should i deal with it.
should i transform the CGS formulas to MKS or directly deduce in CGS,or someother manner.

The easiest thing, for me at least, is to work in whatever units you want the result to be in when finished. If you're writing for a paper, for instance, that wants things in CGS, then start in that format. It's a lot easier than doing it in other units and then translating it. If you're just doing something for yourself, then use whatever you're most comfortable with.
 
Sheets said:
The appendix in Jackson gives a good review of various units. I've never found shifting between units to be a big deal myself.

But it still creates a lot of problems. Just last week a colleague of mine was reading two papers where the respective authors got different results after performing nominally identical experiments. After a while she realized that the reason was that there was a 2pi missing in a formula in one of them; the authors were -apparently without realizing it- using a formula taken from a book written using cgs units but the experimental data and all the other formulas were in SI. Hence, when they fitted their data they came to the wrong conclusion.
A silly misstake, but sometimes it is far from obvious that there is a 2pi missing in a complicated expression (I have made the same misstake using the same book, but fortunately never in anything that I have published).
 
enricfemi said:
i'm used to mks unit systems, but i have to read a book with cgs recently.

it's difficult for me to transform it between them.

can anyguys give me some advises to deal with it !

thanks for responds!

It can be very confusing- MKS, CGS, 'natural', Gaussian, etc. etc. My only advice is not to get bogged down in the details; like always trying to convert miles-per-hour to m/s. Instead, focus on the concepts, get used to doing dimensional analysis, stuff like that.
 
Danger said:
The easiest thing, for me at least, is to work in whatever units you want the result to be in when finished. If you're writing for a paper, for instance, that wants things in CGS, then start in that format. It's a lot easier than doing it in other units and then translating it. If you're just doing something for yourself, then use whatever you're most comfortable with.

This is easy at the condition that the equations are the same in the two systems of units, i.e. that the factors are the same. However when the equations are different (like different factors of [tex]2 \pi, \epsilon_0[/tex] ,etc) then it's a pain in the neck because every time you use a formula that you remember from undergraduate physics, you never know if it's still valid in those other units (example: you calculate the B field produced by an infinite wire and you are in cgs...can you use [tex]\frac{\mu_0 I}{2 \pi r}[/tex], you wonder...)

I personally prefer to convert all the information given to SI units, calculaet everything with formula I know and cherish and convert back to cgs at the end.

But it's a matter of taste.

The key point is to know or to have handy all the equations required in the system of units one is working with.
 
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Very good point, Kdv; I never even thought of the formulae changing. :redface:
 

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