Converting decimals to fractions

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The discussion revolves around converting decimal numbers, specifically repeating decimals, into fractions. Participants explore various methods and considerations for handling such conversions, including examples and potential pitfalls in understanding the notation of repeating decimals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method for converting 0.272727 into a fraction, suggesting it can be expressed as 27/100 + 27/10000 + 27/1000000.
  • Another participant proposes a general formula for converting two-digit repeating decimals to fractions, using the example of 2700/99 to illustrate the process.
  • There is a question raised about whether the decimal should be interpreted as 0.272727 or 0.272727..., indicating a potential misunderstanding of the notation for repeating decimals.
  • A participant provides a method involving algebra, letting x = 0.272727..., and shows how to derive the fraction 27/99 by manipulating the equation.
  • Concerns are expressed about the clarity of the original question, suggesting that the distinction between finite and infinite decimals may not have been understood by the original poster.
  • Another participant notes the relationship between fractions and repeating decimals, stating that every fraction corresponds to a repeating decimal.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of recognizing that 1,000,000 is a power of 10, which has only 2 and 5 as prime factors, and questions whether these factors divide 272727.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the decimal notation and the methods for conversion. There is no consensus on the correct approach or understanding of the original question, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential confusion regarding the notation of repeating decimals and the implications for conversion methods. The discussion reveals a need for clarity on the definitions and assumptions underlying the problem.

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I came across the following question on the BBC website;

Convert 0.272727 to a fraction. It was a multiple choice question so I could test each possible answer by dividing the numerator by the denominator until I got the right one. But it made me wonder how I could have answered it had it not been multiple choice. I could have got as far as 272,727/1,000,000 but then how would I know how to reduce that? I know to look for common factors but would struggle with such a large number.

There was another example also; convert 0.6121212 to a fraction.
 
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0.272727 = 27/100 + 27/10000 + 27/1000000 = 27*( ... )
 
Cliff Hanley said:
I came across the following question on the BBC website;

Convert 0.272727 to a fraction. It was a multiple choice question so I could test each possible answer by dividing the numerator by the denominator until I got the right one. But it made me wonder how I could have answered it had it not been multiple choice. I could have got as far as 272,727/1,000,000 but then how would I know how to reduce that? I know to look for common factors but would struggle with such a large number.

There was another example also; convert 0.6121212 to a fraction.

Suppose you take a two-digit number: 27 for example. Let's look at 2700/99. For every 100, 99 goes into it once and leaves a remainder of 1. So, when you divide 2700 by 99, you get 27 plus a remainder of 27:

2700 = (27 × 99) + 27

Therefore:

2700/99 = 27.272727...

and:

27/99 = 0.272727...

It's the same for any two digit number:

35/99 = 0.353535...

06/99 = 0.060606...

For 1-digit numbers you have:
1/9 = 0.11111...
2/9 = 0.22222...
3/9 = 0.33333...

Etc.

And for 3-digit numbers you have:

001/999 = 0.001001001...

123/999 = 0.123123123

etc.
 
Was the problem to convert .272727 to a fraction or was it written as .272727...; i.e., with the dots, indicating that the same pattern repeats infinitely?
 
Equivalently, if we let x= 0.27272727... then 100x= 27.272727... Now subtracting 100x- x leaves the integer 27 (the fact that the "27" part of the decimal is infinitely repeating means that we will always have the "27"s continuing after the decimal point so they all cancel). That is, 100x- x= 99x= 27 so x= 27/99.

Every fraction is equivalent to a repeating decimal.

(We count 1/2= 0.5 as 0.500000... with the "0" repeating. Every fraction with denominator having only "2"s and "5"s as factors of the denominator is such a "terminating" decimal.)
 
Cliff Hanley said:
Convert 0.272727 to a fraction.

HallsofIvy said:
Equivalently, if we let x= 0.27272727...
These are two different and unrelated problems. Possibly the OP is unaware of the difference between .272727 and .272727...

We should hold off on further responses until the OP returns to clarify what he is asking.
 
Thank you. I completely missed that!
 
Cliff Hanley said:
I came across the following question on the BBC website;

Convert 0.272727 to a fraction. It was a multiple choice question so I could test each possible answer by dividing the numerator by the denominator until I got the right one. But it made me wonder how I could have answered it had it not been multiple choice. I could have got as far as 272,727/1,000,000 but then how would I know how to reduce that? I know to look for common factors but would struggle with such a large number.

There was another example also; convert 0.6121212 to a fraction.
Surely you know that 1,000,000 is a power of 10, 10^6? And that 10= 2*5? So the denominator has factors of only 2 and 5. Do 2 or 5 divide 272727?
 

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