Corruption in NSJ: 4 Innocent Bystanders Injured in Hoboken Bank Robbery

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The discussion revolves around a bank robbery in Hoboken, New Jersey, where four innocent bystanders were injured. Participants explore themes of crime, politics, and societal perceptions in New Jersey, with a focus on the implications of such events and the nature of local governance.

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  • Some participants express skepticism about the notion of innocence in the context of crime in New Jersey, suggesting a cultural perception that challenges the idea of "innocent bystanders."
  • There are humorous remarks about the ease of engaging in criminal activities in New Jersey, with some participants jokingly suggesting that one could simply wait in Hoboken to get involved.
  • Participants discuss the competitive nature of politics in New Jersey, referencing scandals and the lengths to which politicians may go to maintain public attention.
  • Some argue that organized crime might be preferable to local government, suggesting that the two are intertwined in New Jersey.
  • There are comments on the effectiveness of law enforcement in New Jersey, with mixed feelings about the environment in which they operate, described as "target-rich."
  • Humor is used to address serious topics, such as the idea of newborns having criminal records and the role of medical professionals in identifying at-risk families.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views and humorous takes on serious issues, with no clear consensus on the implications of the robbery or the state of governance in New Jersey.

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Participants reference various cultural and political elements specific to New Jersey, which may influence their perspectives. The discussion includes speculative humor about crime and governance without definitive conclusions.

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The Information Ministry of the Glorious People's Democratic Revolutionary Republic of Northern South Jersey (GPDRRNSJ (NSJ for short) for short) has released the following communique: "Hoboken and Secaucus are in the north. You got to problem with that?"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBblMZUVJ6To"

What do you expect? When the news came out about those 4 innocent bystanders that were injured during a bank robbery in Hoboken, we in the GPDRRNSJ didn't know what to make of it. We hadn't realized that in North Jersery there were 4 innocent people.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
The Information Ministry of the Glorious People's Democratic Revolutionary Republic of Northern South Jersey (GPDRRNSJ (NSJ for short) for short) has released the following communique: "Hoboken and Secaucus are in the north. You got to problem with that?"
:smile:

What do you expect? When the news came out about those 4 innocent bystanders that were injured during a bank robbery in Hoboken, we in the GPDRRNSJ didn't know what to make of it. We hadn't realized that in North Jersery there were 4 innocent people.
Those are the 4 from NY who went missing. :smile:
 
Damn. How do I get in on one of these?
 
Office_Shredder said:
Damn. How do I get in on one of these?
Go to Hoboken and wait 5 minutes.
 
I spent a year interning at Stevens. Didn't work. I think you need to wear sunglasses or a trenchcoat maybe
 
Office_Shredder said:
I spent a year interning at Stevens. Didn't work. I think you need to wear sunglasses or a trenchcoat maybe
Me either. 17 indictments, no convictions.
 
Oooooh, I'm in New Jersey right now.

Obama was just in NJ a little while ago campaigning for Corzine's reelection and he praised the mayor of Hoboken I think.

At least our pizza>>>your pizza.
 
Politics is just so darned competitive. What could you expect when all the sex scandals are becoming too old hat that nobody notices anymore. In order to keep up with Republicans, Democrats had to start resorting to selling body parts and bouncing $25 million dollar checks! That last one has me boggled. Did the bank really just take his word for it that he would be good for two $25 million overdrafts on an account with a zero balance?

But, you should have warned me not to drink anything while reading the article. I had just taken a mouthful of soda when I got to this part:
“In both parts of this investigation, respected figures in position of public and private trust engaged in conduct behind closed doors that belied the faces of honesty, integrity and rectitude they displayed daily to their respective constituencies,” Marra said in the statement.
:smile: I thought they were talking about politicians and rabbis in NJ. Faces of honesty, integrity and rectitude? :smile:
 
On the upside, it sure looks like the cops and prosecutors in NJ are doing a pretty good job. Zowie.
 
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berkeman said:
On the upside, it sure looks like the cops and prosecutors in NJ are doing a pretty good job. Zowie.
You have to remember that they are working in what the military calls a "target-rich" environment. You can't swing a cat in NJ without hitting a mobster.
 
  • #11
turbo-1 said:
You can't swing a cat in NJ without hitting a mobster.
Perhaps they should just be allowed to run the place - after all 'organized' crime would be better than 'local' government.

Anyone else read SnowCrash ?
 
  • #12
mgb_phys said:
Perhaps they should just be allowed to run the place - after all 'organized' crime would be better than 'local' government.

They already do run the place, and they ARE the local government in NJ. :biggrin:

Though, I guess it does make sense that they chose body part sales there. I guess it's sort of like a chop shop for stolen cars...if you sell off the parts, you can make a quick profit while hiding the evidence. Maybe the swamps are getting full.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
What do you expect? When the news came out about those 4 innocent bystanders that were injured during a bank robbery in Hoboken, we in the GPDRRNSJ didn't know what to make of it. We hadn't realized that in North Jersery there were 4 innocent people.

:smile: :smile: :smile:

Even the newborns have criminal records.
 
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Pengwuino said:
:smile: :smile: :smile:

Even the newborns have criminal records.
That's not true. Infants are indicted in the womb, but can't be convicted until after they are born. Sadly, juries often lack the will to punish infants and toddlers.
 
  • #15
Pengwuino said:
Even the newborns have criminal records.
That's why it's so important to include obstetricians in the fight against crime.

Midwives, doctors and nurses are to be asked to identify "chaotic" families whose babies are in danger of growing up to be delinquents, drug addicts and violent criminals.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/failures-targeted-at-birth-408163.html