Could a Planet Gain Mass and Ignite as a Star?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the theoretical possibility of a planet gaining mass through collisions and potentially igniting as a star. It examines the conditions necessary for nuclear ignition, the nature of the mass added, and the implications of such a transformation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if a planet like Jupiter gained sufficient mass (approximately 10 times its current mass), it could potentially ignite as a star due to increased kinetic energy and pressure.
  • One participant suggests that adding more hydrogen, which is abundant in such planets, could facilitate nuclear ignition.
  • Another participant questions the redundancy of the original question and emphasizes that the mass added would need to be hydrogen, as it is the most plentiful element in the universe.
  • It is noted that adding mass to a celestial body generates significant heat through adiabatic compression or collision energy, which could contribute to the ignition process.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges of adding mass to a body without affecting its angular momentum, which could result in the mass being ejected into space.
  • A later reply mentions that young stars are brighter while cooling down before joining the main sequence, suggesting that rapid formation could lead to significant heat and brightness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the feasibility of a planet igniting as a star through mass addition, with some agreeing on the potential for ignition under certain conditions, while others raise questions about the practicality and specifics of the process. No consensus is reached on the overall viability of the concept.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the availability of hydrogen and the methods of mass addition, which remain unresolved. Additionally, the implications of angular momentum on mass addition are not fully explored.

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So I heard a theory once that a planet, gaining mass through collisions, could over time become a feelble star (if it gained about 10x the mass of jupiter), through adding kinetic energy and pressure, etc., and that this would create nuclear ignition.

My question is this: If somehow we could fabricate a way to add mass to a planet that was this size, would it be possible to instigate nuclear ignition over a relatively short period of time? (nevermind how we would add the mass). Also, would the fuel (hydrogen, etc.) be found naturally in the planet, or would it be scarce and immediately collapse, or what?
 
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would it be possible to instigate nuclear ignition over a relatively short period of time? (nevermind how we would add the mass). Also, would the fuel (hydrogen, etc.) be found naturally in the planet, or would it be scarce and immediately collapse, or what?

Yes. A planet, like Jupiter, is already mostly hydrogen and helium, just like the sun. If you could simply add more mass in the form of additional hydrogen, then yes it would ignite and become a star.
 
I'm not sure I see the point, here - the OP is pretty much redundant: you stated that if mass is added to a planet it could become a star and then asked if a planet could become a star if mass is added...

Is the question regarding what form the "mass" would have to be? Obviously, it would have to be hydrogen - but since hydrogen is by far the most plentiful in the universe, that's probably what it would be anyway.
 
The more important point is just adding more mass to a body creates a great deal of heat which comes from either the adiabatic compression of the gas or the collision energy of the body striking the surface if you drop things on it. The final point is that it is not all that easy to add mass to a body because you have to get rid of the angular momentum or it just whips round in a tight orbit and shoots off.

Young sun type stars are much brighter while they are cooling down before they join the main sequence and even eventual brown dwarfs will get very hot and bright for a while if they form fast enough
 

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