Could Heat Exchange Be the Reason Behind Earth's Spin?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons behind Earth's rotation and its stability over millions of years. Participants explore various theories, including cosmic influences, collisions, and heat exchange, while addressing the implications of these ideas on our understanding of celestial mechanics.

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  • Some participants suggest that Earth's rotation could be influenced by heat exchange between its surfaces, proposing that temperature differences might contribute to its ongoing spin.
  • Others argue that angular momentum is a conserved quantity, indicating that once Earth began to spin, external torques would be necessary to change that momentum, with the Moon's gravitational effects being a significant factor in its current rotation rate.
  • A participant mentions that the initial spin of Earth may have originated from eddies in the primordial material of the solar system, where uneven motions led to strong local rotation due to gravity.
  • Another point raised is that the rotation of Earth could have been modified by significant events, such as the formation of the Moon, which may explain the angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind Earth's rotation, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Multiple competing theories are presented, including heat exchange, angular momentum conservation, and the effects of the Moon and other celestial interactions.

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Some claims depend on specific definitions of angular momentum and the effects of gravitational interactions, which may not be fully resolved in the discussion. The implications of heat exchange as a mechanism for rotation remain speculative and are not universally accepted.

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Question: I read conflicting information on why Earth spins and has done so for millions of years with very little speed change.
Some say it’s due to cosmic spinning particles millions of years ago others say it spins due to collisions in space and some say it remains spinning from the big bag etc.

May be its just my lack of understanding but none of these seem to hold up to me or make much sense.

Could it be the Earth settled in orbit around the sun and then over millions of years began to rotate because the sun heating one surface and the dark side getting colder and colder hence eventually heat diffusing from the hot service and air to the cold service and air mixed with the orbit of the sun caused the Earth to start rotating.

If so at this time it would have spun up quickly in space terms until the temperature of both sides settled down.

Now in this day during the period the earth’s surface is exposed to the suns radiation that surface area (sea or land) and the air above it becomes warmer and warmer until it falls back into darkness (night) and begins to cool, the coldest part that has been in the dark the longest is now being attracted to the warming sun facing surface (morning).

In a vacuum such as space surely this well known heat reaction could over millions of years cause Earth to continue to rotate and remain rotating at its fairly constant speed.
If my theory is correct then someone better at maths than me could proof this by looking at the rotation speed of Earth and calculating the period the suns radiation is on the surface, mass of the Earth and distance from the sun, my maths is not good but I hope you understand what I am saying here.

So if the Earth is in fact rotated by heat diffusing from the hot air to the cold air then this would have a lot of implications such as calculating service temperatures of celestial bodies including the sun and planets, deterring what elements may exists, estimating mass, distance from the sun etc

So could it be rotation has existed for so many years due to the simple physics of heat exchange?

I don't pretend to understand astrophysics, so could someone tell me if this theory is even possible.

Thank you for your time

Jamie Pocock
 
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JamiePocock said:
Question: I read conflicting information on why Earth spins and has done so for millions of years with very little speed change.
Some say it’s due to cosmic spinning particles millions of years ago others say it spins due to collisions in space and some say it remains spinning from the big bag etc.
None of the above.

Angular momentum is a conserved quantity. What that means is once something starts spinning, some action, a torque, is required to change that angular momentum. Without any external torques acting on a spinning body, that spinning object would maintain the same angular momentum forever.

That said, the Earth's rotation rate is not constant. The Earth was rotating considerably faster than it is now 4+ billion years ago; some estimate the length of the day was as short as four to six hours. The Moon is the primary culprit. The Moon raises tides in the oceans. Those tides don't flow freely; they interact with the land: Friction.

The friction causes a torque on the Earth, and that torque in turn makes the Earth's rotation rate decrease (rather slowly). There is also an affect on the Moon's orbit. Because the Earth is rotating faster than once per month, the Earth's rotation drags the tidal bulges slightly ahead of the line between the Earth and Moon. This makes the Moon accelerate a bit faster than it would if those tidal bulges were not present, and that in turn makes the Moon slowly recede from the Earth. End result: Angular momentum is being transferred from the Earth's rotation about its axis to the Moon's orbit about the Earth.
 
The initial spin would probably have been from eddies in the clouds of material from which the whole solar system was formed. When you pull in matter (in this case using gravity) from a distance, any slight uneven motions in the initial distribution turn into strong rotation locally, in the same way as water draining from a basin, because angular momentum is conserved, so the rate of rotation increases as the material is pulled in.

The rotation could however have been modified by whatever events created the Moon or other interactions between planets. Although most of the bodies in the solar system are spinning generally in the same direction, some fairly major interactions must have happened at some time to explain the anomalous rotations of Venus and Uranus.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
The rotation could however have been modified by whatever events created the Moon
One of the appeals of the giant impact hypothesis is that it explains the anomalously high angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system.
 

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