Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the prospects of obtaining a tenure track faculty position at small liberal arts colleges or engineering schools, particularly for someone currently enrolled in a PhD program at Oakland University. Participants explore the implications of the university's prestige, the importance of teaching experience, and the competitive nature of faculty positions.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
- Exploratory
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses concern about whether a PhD from Oakland University will hinder their chances of securing a tenure track position, questioning the need for a more prestigious university.
- Another participant suggests consulting an advisor about the success rate of former students in obtaining tenure track positions at liberal arts schools.
- It is noted that there are graduates from Oakland University who have secured tenure track positions at local universities.
- One participant emphasizes that tenure track positions at four-year colleges are highly competitive, often receiving hundreds of applications, and that the criteria for these positions differ from those at research universities.
- Concerns are raised about the limited availability of tenure track positions at community colleges, which often rely on part-time instructors.
- Some participants argue that a successful track record in both classroom instruction and scholarly output is essential for competitiveness in the job market, particularly for fresh PhDs.
- There is mention of the expectation for candidates to have research experience, especially at small liberal arts colleges, which may complicate the prospects for those who prefer not to engage in research.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the necessity of a prestigious PhD program for securing tenure track positions, with some arguing it is not essential if other qualifications are met. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path to achieving a faculty position, with multiple competing perspectives on the importance of research experience and teaching credentials.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight the variability in hiring practices across different types of institutions, noting that community colleges may not require a PhD and often hire part-time faculty. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the specific qualifications needed for tenure track positions in various educational settings.