Could neutrino anomalies be explained by Pandemonium effect?

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The discussion centers around the potential explanation of antineutrino anomalies through the Pandemonium effect, exploring the implications of this effect on nuclear reactor models and the energy distribution of beta decay and antineutrinos.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the Pandemonium effect could explain antineutrino anomalies due to its impact on the input data for nuclear reactor models, particularly concerning beta-feeding.
  • Another participant questions the expectation of a relationship between the Pandemonium effect and antineutrino anomalies.
  • A participant notes that the Pandemonium effect is relevant for gamma spectra and argues that beta energies are easier to measure, implying that the effect may not contribute to the expected energy distribution of antineutrinos.
  • It is mentioned that the Pandemonium effect would suggest a higher energy distribution for neutrinos, which contradicts the observed anomalies.
  • A later reply acknowledges the previous point about the direction of the Pandemonium effect but apologizes for any confusion caused in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the Pandemonium effect to antineutrino anomalies, with some supporting its potential impact while others challenge its applicability and directionality. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for accurate input data in nuclear reactor models and the complexities of measuring beta and neutrino energies, highlighting potential limitations in current understanding and measurement techniques.

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Do you have a particular reason to expect a relation?
 
Hello

I think so: the models of nuclear reactors need beta-feeding as input, but there are nuclei which have still not been measured without Pandemonium effect.

If they are using info affected by Pandemonium effect in order to model the nuclear reactor, the expected energy distribution of beta (and therefore, antineutrino) could be affected too, and the comparison between the expected and measured energy spectrum could be explained by a incomplete (wrong) input data for the model of nuclear reactor.

I have no access to the original article, so I ask here about it :)

Greetings
 
The pandemonium effect is relevant for the gamma spectra. The beta energies are much easier to measure, and you can get the neutrino energies based on that spectrum.
Also, the pandemonium effect would go in the wrong direction, suggesting more high-energetic neutrinos.

Some mismodeling of the neutrino emission spectra can certainly be a reason for the discrepancy. It is not anything peak-like, just the spectrum is a bit different.
 
Hello

mfb said:
Also, the pandemonium effect would go in the wrong direction, suggesting more high-energetic neutrinos.

You're right, sorry for (wasting) your time.

Greetings
 

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