Could Rogue Planets be an Alternative to Dark Matter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential of rogue planets as an alternative explanation for dark matter, examining the implications of their existence in relation to galaxy data. It includes theoretical considerations and references to observational data.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that rogue planets could be considered as a possible alternative to dark matter based on their prevalence.
  • Others argue that there are not enough rogue planets to account for dark matter, estimating that approximately a thousand times more would be needed for them to be a viable candidate.
  • One participant references data from Big Bang Nucleosynthesis (BBN) and the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) to assert that dark matter cannot be composed of baryons, implying that it must be something other than ordinary matter.
  • Another participant notes the existence of different "levels" of dark matter and discusses the discrepancy between the estimated amount of ordinary matter and what is observable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the viability of rogue planets as an alternative to dark matter, with some asserting that they cannot account for dark matter while others explore the idea further. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the role of rogue planets in dark matter theories.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on estimates of rogue planet populations and the definitions of dark matter, as well as the unresolved nature of the relationship between ordinary matter and dark matter as indicated by observational data.

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Hello,

I learned from Yahoo about the existence of many more "rogue planets" than stars.
These planets are not bound to a solar system, they are "free floating".
I found more information on wikipedia and jpl.

I wonder now if these "rogue planets" could be an alternative to the "dark matter" to reconcile the various data on galaxies.

Would you have some ideas or some data about this?

Thanks,

Michel



http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110518/sc_space/lonelyrogueworldssurprisinglyoutnumberplanetswithsuns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_planet
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-147
 
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lalbatros said:
I wonder now if these "rogue planets" could be an alternative to the "dark matter" to reconcile the various data on galaxies.

Nope. The problem with rogue planets is that there aren't enough of them to account for dark matter. A lot of the work looking for rogue planets comes from work trying to use them as an explanation for dark matter, and there aren't enough of them.

From memory, you need about a thousand times more rogue planets for them to make a reasonable candidate for dark matter.

Would you have some ideas or some data about this?

Look up MACHO.
 
Also, both the data from BBN (Big Bang Nucleosynthesis) and the data from the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background) tells us that the dark matter can't be composed of baryons. so dark matter can't be made of atoms - it's something else.
 
phyzguy said:
Also, both the data from BBN (Big Bang Nucleosynthesis) and the data from the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background) tells us that the dark matter can't be composed of baryons. so dark matter can't be made of atoms - it's something else.

Also there are different "levels" of dark matter.

If you take the estimated amount of "ordinary matter" from BBN and CMB, and the add up all of the matter that we can see, you find that we only see a small fraction of the ordinary matter out there.
 

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