Could Space Be an Energy Conversion Rather Than a Result of the Big Bang?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothesis that space could be viewed as a form of energy or as a result of energy conversion, rather than being solely a consequence of the Big Bang. Participants explore the implications of this idea, including connections to concepts like vacuum energy and spontaneous symmetry breaking.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • James Leckner proposes that space might be a form of energy or a result of energy conversion, suggesting that the Big Bang could represent the beginning of this conversion process.
  • Some participants mention vacuum energy as a relevant concept, noting its implications for cosmology and the expansion of the universe.
  • Another participant suggests looking into spontaneous symmetry breaking as it relates to changes in energy states and characteristics.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of personal theories in the forum, with suggestions to frame questions instead of presenting speculative ideas.
  • There is a warning that personal theories may lead to thread closure, emphasizing adherence to mainstream scientific discourse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and caution regarding personal theories, with some supporting the exploration of the hypothesis while others emphasize the need to align with established scientific concepts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the original hypothesis.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the depth of knowledge about vacuum energy and spontaneous symmetry breaking, as well as the informal nature of the initial hypothesis. The conversation reflects a blend of personal speculation and established scientific ideas.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the relationship between energy and space, cosmological theories, or the implications of vacuum energy may find this discussion relevant.

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A hypothesis only by James Leckner

Looking at space as a form of energy itself or as another way that energy is converted from one form to another. You would look at space as not the result of a large explosion (per say) but more like the conversion of one form of energy to another or even some form of energy outside of space undergoing some form of entropy or reaction creating more space or the "expansion" of space. The big bang could be described as the start of this conversion of energy, almost like a bubble forming inside this "outside" form of energy (for lack of a better term) as the result of its energy being converted into open space and that transformation of energy continues indefinitely. Dark energy could just simply be this conversion. Some form of energy outside open space being converted into open space.

I wanted to place this idea somewhere where i can get some feedback, or a way to prove it wrong so I can stop thinking about it. I am no astronomer or physicist and don't have the type of education to really put this idea out there the way that I want so I wanted some ideas from more learned people than myself to either discount this or expand on it.

Any comments or thoughts at all however are more than welcome.
 
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Who is James Leckner? I can't find him with google

By the way, it's "per se" not "per say"
 
Igotta:
I wanted to place this idea somewhere where i can get some feedback,

Try reading about 'vacuum energy' and see what you think...how it relates to what is puzzling you. Have you seen descriptions like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
Vacuum energy is an underlying background energy that exists in space throughout the entire Universe...

...The vacuum energy also has important consequences for physical cosmology. Special relativity predicts that energy is equivalent to mass, and therefore, if the vacuum energy is "really there", it should exert a gravitational force. Essentially, a non-zero vacuum energy is expected to contribute to the cosmological constant, which affects the expansion of the universe.

So just about anything you can imagine IS 'energy'.

Igotta:
...more like the conversion of one form of energy to another...

that is probably just what it is...look up 'spontaneous symmetry breaking' in the early universe...

like here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_symmetry_breaking

When you change the degrees of freedom of any entity, voila, it's characteristics change...a sort of 'conversion' takes place...

so, based on the non standard language/phrasing in your post...I'd say I don't see anything new...it sounds like those general ideas have been incorporated in mainstream physics...and the development of a lot of underlying mathematics as illustrated by the links I posted...but without knowing more about just what the details are behind your comments, it's impossible to know.
 
phinds said:
Who is James Leckner? I can't find him with google

By the way, it's "per se" not "per say"

Yea that would be me. And thank you.

Naty1

Thank you for the feedback and my apologies for the very simple breakdown of this idea. It was something that I thought of standing in my driveway this morning and kind of rushed to jot it down as to not lose it later. Thank you for the links I am looking these over now. I was aware of vacuum energy but hadn't looked into it in depth really before now.
 
Better to pose questions rather than risk your topic be CLOSED because it is personal speculation...a personal theory.

Try asking things like "How is energy related to space?" or "Can space be considered a form of energy?"
 
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Naty1 said:
Better to pose questions rather than risk your topic be CLOSED because it is personal speculation...a personal theory.

Try asking things like "How is energy related to space?" or "Can space be considered a form of energy?"

Thank you I will definitely do that in the future.
 
Personal theories are not allowed on PF, so I am going to close the thread. Feel free to start another thread for discussion of what mainstream science says about the expansion of the universe.
 

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